From: Jersey Guy (guy.jersey@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Feb 15 2008 - 05:41:22 ARST
I should probably shut the heck up because this is NONE of my business but
maybe....m-a-y-b-e........JP Singh got slammed around a bit because his
command of the english language is rather poor? We've ALL known some CCIE
who's awesome with Cisco tech but abysmal with everything else......so i'm
just wondering if I should just go to sleep and pretend I never wrote
this.....zzzzzz
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 9:35 AM, <jatinder.p.singh@bt.com> wrote:
> Dear Matt,
>
> I am not blaming you people. Its truth and you know that very well. I
> have try to explain you so many times but you always kick my ASS. If you
> think that I post something wrong here. I can send you so many mails
> where people don't have any strength to send the mail here about IP
> expert. But any way I am not planning to do any more CCIE.
>
> I have used Internetwork expert work books when I have done CCIE in R&S
> I have never blame them for anything. If some thing is wrong than only I
> have tell the truth here. I know you have even try to bloke me here in
> this group study also. But I don't care what you want to do now. I know
> what I have done and this is correct to let the people knows the truth.
> I respect Scott from my heart. HE is guru for me but if u think that u
> become smart by removing me from your online Group study than who cares.
>
> So Good bye and Take care.
>
>
> Best Regards
> J P Singh | CCIE:- 13620 (R&S , Voice) | Specialist: Design, Development
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Brooks [mailto:mbrooks@ipexpert.com]
> Sent: 14 February 2008 14:27
> To: CCIE RS
> Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>; Dhameeja,JPS,Jatinder,AXSC52 R
> Subject: Re: Finally Pass Voice Lab on first attempt
>
> Hi, Mark.
>
> Thanks for posting your concern. Perhaps others were thinking the same,
> so I will quickly reply to all.
>
> Frankly, I would prefer *not* to have to engage on this list. You are
> right; it is for CCIE candidates and, while you might find that buddying
> up to a "sales guy" running a training company could be a great help to
> your studies, that is not the purpose if this list.
>
> The fact is, I have been given permission by Paul Borghese (the owner of
> Group Study) to engage in these kinds of conversations. As I have stated
> many times, it is not our intent or desire to stomp out any negative
> comments about IPexpert. We are not perfect, so part of doing business
> is that there will be criticism from time to time. That's OK.
> The trouble arises with posts like the one that started this thread,
> which are so untrue and outrageous that it is reasonable to defend the
> correct position.
>
> In closing, I encourage you to search the archives for any posts by me.
> I think you will find that I have never abused the system. You will also
> find plenty of constructive criticism with no reply from me. ;-)
>
> Feel free to verify my comments with Paul as well.
>
> With that, I apologize for the distraction and wish all of you great
> success with your CCIE pursuit.
>
> --
> Matt Brooks
> Vice President - IPexpert, Inc.
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 x101
> Mailto: mbrooks@ipexpert.com
>
>
>
> On Feb 14, 2008, at 2:24 AM, CCIE RS <cciers@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > has Matt Brooks passed his CCIE written to be in this forum? does he
> > have a Lab date for the main lab exam?
> > is he not a sales type of guy from IPEXPERT? Can this forum allow
> > sales people? If so I hope the team from Internetworkexpert joins as
> > they are excellent in what they do. (Kady, Mike, Misty..etc) SORRY IF
> > I AM WRONG.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > mark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:00:04 -0500
> > > From: mbrooks@ipexpert.com
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: FW: Finally Pass Voice Lab on first attempt
> > > CC: jatinder.p.singh@bt.com
> > >
> > > JP,
> > >
> > > First, I would like to congratulate you on your success. Even in
> > light of
> > > your review of IPexpert, I believe that you gained some benefit
> > from our
> > > products, courses and support. For that, I am pleased to have been
> > a part of
> > > your success.
> > >
> > > It is good to see that Brad and his team were able to help you as
> > well. I am
> > > pleased to say that we have developed a great relationship with the
> > > CCbootcamp staff. Brad runs a fine operation and is generous with
> > his time
> > > and desire to help CCIE candidates.
> > >
> > > I am, however, disappointed that your review did not acknowledge
> > the many
> > > phone calls and emails that our team engaged with you, which
> > certainly went
> > > well outside our "normal" level of support. I suppose it is true
> > in business
> > > that "you can't please all the people all the time," but we will
> > continue
> > > trying to assist other CCIE Voice candidates...
> > >
> > > ----------------
> > > On February 8th 2008 I passed my CCIE Voice Lab in RTP. I took the
> > IPexpert
> > > 10 day boot camp in Richardson TX, and I can't express enough how
> > much this
> > > helped me to pass. I have been working with IPT for over 6 years
> > and have
> > > done Call Manager installs all the way back to the version 3.0,
> > but still
> > > picked up a wealth of new knowledge at this boot camp that if I
> > hadn't had I
> > > would not have passed.
> > >
> > > Vik's help was amazing and I couldn't come up with any questions
> > to stump
> > > him. If I had a question on any of the technology he always had an
> > answer
> > > for me. IPexpert's Voice boot camp and practice materials are
> > second to
> > > none. Had I not gone to the boot camp I don't feel like I would
> > have passed
> > > the lab. I would also like to say the proctor lab equipment is
> > great, and I
> > > used it exclusively to study for the lab at home since I could not
> > afford to
> > > buy my own lab.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Allen Hartman
> > > CCIE #11381 (Voice, R&S)
> > >
> > > ----------------
> > >
> > > I passed on January 29, 2008. One of my friend recommended
> > IPexpert's CCIE
> > > Bootcamp as a good way to prepare for the lab. The bootcamp was
> > really
> > > helpful in terms of measuring your own readiness to take the test.
> > I would
> > > definitely recommend to sign-up for this bootcamp BEFORE you even
> > sign up
> > > for the real lab attempt. You may find out that you are not ready
> > or there
> > > are many other/better strategies you could use to give you a
> > better chance
> > > at passing the lab.
> > >
> > > Mark Snow was very helpful/knowledgeable and provided useful
> > insights about
> > > things to look out for during the test. I also ordered the
> > workbook from
> > > IPexpert which I used to do time trials for the real test.
> > >
> > > I guess I am really proud that I was able to pass this test more
> > than 10
> > > years after I passed my first R&S CCIE. Big thumbs up for IPexpert!
> > >
> > > Andras Arato
> > > CCIE #3297 (Voice, R&S)
> > >
> > > ----------------
> > >
> > > I would like to express my gratitude for the training that I
> > received from
> > > IPexpert in preparing for my Voice CCIE lab. I used the Voice
> > Proctor Guide
> > > to gain a solid foundation of the possible testable topics in the
> > Voice CCIE
> > > lab, and then partook of the 5 day lab experience boot camp taught
> > by Vik
> > > Malhi roughly one month before I sat for the exam. I was thoroughly
> > > impressed with Vik's knowledge, and a few times during the course
> > my lab
> > > partner and I would bet on how quickly Vik would know the answers
> > to our
> > > questions before we finished the questioning sentence.
> > >
> > > In addition, during the month after my bootcamp and before my lab
> > practical,
> > > I posed many questions to the online forum that Mark Snow would
> > respond too.
> > > Mark's explanations were clear and concise and he went above and
> > beyond in
> > > many situations to make sure I understood the material. I am happy
> > to report
> > > that on January 22nd of 2008, I passed the Voice lab and feel
> > strongly that
> > > IPexpert was a contributing factor.
> > >
> > > However, I would also like to make the point that IPexpert does
> > not train
> > > people to pass the CCIE Lab exam. To the contrary, IPexpert's
> > training
> > > regiment ensures that each individual actually understands the
> > technology
> > > and truly becomes a better engineer.
> > >
> > > In much appreciation,
> > >
> > > Mike Schultz
> > > CCIE (R&S, Voice) #7935
> > >
> > > ----------------
> > > IPexpert was recommended to me by a local Cisco SE, who recently
> > took a boot
> > > camp, and by a coworker who used the lab guide to pass his Voice
> > lab last
> > > year. I worked through several of the exercises in the workbook
> > before
> > > taking the boot camp.
> > >
> > > The boot camp really helped me understand several critical areas
> > much better
> > > and helped me develop a strategy for the lab. After the boot camp
> > I worked
> > > through all of the labs in the workbook and the new e-books using
> > the
> > > Proctor Labs online racks. Working through all of the labs helped
> > me learn
> > > even more and increased my speed.
> > >
> > > After completing the workbook and the e-books I felt ready for the
> > lab and
> > > was not nervous on test day. Because of all the hard work and
> > preparation I
> > > was able to pass the Voice lab on my first attempt. This was not
> > easy and
> > > required many hours of study. You cannot just go to a boot camp
> > and expect
> > > to pass, but with hard work and IPexpert products you can pass the
> > lab.
> > >
> > > The most important part of the whole experience of studying for
> > and passing
> > > the voice lab was that I greatly expanded my voice knowledge,
> > which will
> > > help me provide better service to my customers.
> > >
> > > Hal White, CCIE (R&S, Voice) #12507
> > >
> > > ----------------
> > >
> > > Since my first CCIE Routing & Switching achieved in 2003, I have
> > been used
> > > IPexpert workbook. I practiced the complete whole book including the
> > > break-down practice and one-day mock labs. It helped me a lot to
> > pass the
> > > R&S lab in 2 attempts. The workbook covered much wider scope than
> > the real
> > > lab, and it was based on the 9-routers case scenarios (the real
> > lab has only
> > > 6 routers). Which helped me a lot to keep the confidence till the
> > end to
> > > complete the R&S CCIE lab within 4 hours. Yes, 4 hours only. So I
> > could have
> > > another 4 hours to fully test the lab one by one.
> > >
> > > Before I started my CCIE Voice study, I researched on which
> > workbook in the
> > > market is the best that could fit me to practice the hands-on
> > experience,
> > > since I didn't have much hands-on, regardless I was a CCVP. I am
> > so far very
> > > happy with the decision to choose the IPExpert workbook. It
> > covered a lot of
> > > major topics for the section practice on CallManager, Unity, IPCC,
> > Fax, GW,
> > > GK and so forth. It took me 3 attempts to pass Voice CCIE in exact
> > one year.
> > > The workbook, again, helped me prepared more stuff than the real
> > lab asked
> > > for. So I could feel confidence everytime sit inside the real lab.
> > The first
> > > two attempts were not really bad, and I felt I was closer and
> > closer to the
> > > final success. And eventually I nailed it down on the 3rd attempt.
> > It was
> > > again, in the first 4.5 hours I completed the whole lab, and spent
> > the rest
> > > of time for testing and troubleshooting.
> > >
> > > IPExpert had the first-class of CCIE Voice rack rental. I tried a
> > couple
> > > sessions before the final exam during the Christmas and New Year
> > holiday
> > > season. Their after-hour support was phenomenal. It was instant and
> > > efficient. I was very impressive with the effort of the support
> > team, since
> > > they were just like standing beside you and reply to you through
> > the email
> > > and fix the issue very quickly. Also, IPexpert has their own
> > mailing list,
> > > in addition to their online CCIE forum, that I could post my
> > questions and
> > > get the answer instantly from both instructors and other CCIE
> > candidates
> > > around the world.
> > >
> > > I would certainly recommend IPexpert products to those future
> > CCIEs. Welcome
> > > to the club.
> > >
> > > Thank you again IPexpert.
> > >
> > > Weihui Ted Meng, CCIE #12621
> > >
> > > ----------------
> > >
> > > http://www.ipexpert.com/index.cfm/Testimonials
> > > --
> > > Matt Brooks
> > > Vice President - IPexpert, Inc.
> > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 x101
> > > Mailto: mbrooks@ipexpert.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Subject: Finally Pass Voice Lab on first attempt
> > > > > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:17:33 +0000
> > > > > From: jatinder.p.singh@bt.com
> > > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear All,
> > > > >
> > > > > Yesterday, I passed my ccie voice lab at brussels on my first
> > attempt.
> > > > > Firstly I would like to thank all who helped me towards
> > achieving this
> > > > > goal. Special thanks to Tarun pahuja, and the CCBootcamp team
> > (Brad) who
> > > > > gave me personal support. Even though I did not buy any of their
> > > > > products they gave their personal contact details and helped
> > me when I
> > > > > needed much help.
> > > > >
> > > > > I started this journey in early 2007, I cleared the written
> > after
> > > > > reading all the recommended cisco press books. Then my company
> > supported
> > > > > me in buying all the voice lab equipment which I setup in my
> > office.
> > > > > They also approved for me to go on a bootcamp, and I choose to
> > go to the
> > > > > IPexpert for 12 days.
> > > > >
> > > > > I bought all IPexpert products including COD and spent more then
> > > > > $10,000. However I found their bootcamp demoralizing and
> > disappointing
> > > > > . I was discouraged and told that no one could pass the lab in
> > the
> > > > > first attempt. I felt they were hiding things from me so as to
> > prolong
> > > > > my studies so as to keep me lingering on.. Their support was
> > terrible,
> > > > > their workbook had errors, little explanations and I found
> > myself
> > > > > spending hours being frustrated when things would not work due
> > to
> > > > > ommisions or things not explained properly. As a customer I
> > expect a
> > > > > teaching product to be accurate and explain things so as to
> > reinforce
> > > > > my technical abilities, but soon I discovered that their
> > strategy was
> > > > > to hide things, to make me it difficult instead and to mentally
> > > > > discourage me so that I was guaranteed to fail on first attempt.
> > > > >
> > > > > However I kept positive and determined to pass this exam and
> > made a
> > > > > challenge to pass it on my first attempt. I spent the next two
> > months
> > > > > off work and studying 15-18 hours per day and working on my
> > weaknesses.
> > > > > I consulted the cisco press books several times until I was
> > comfortable
> > > > > with every technology and spent hours on-hands practising on
> > all the
> > > > > technologies.
> > > > >
> > > > > From my experience the lab was not as hard as I thought it
> > would be. I
> > > > > got back from Brussels today and saw the good news.. now its
> > time for a
> > > > > break and some celebration.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks to you all.....
> > > > >
> > > > > J P Singh
> > > > >
> > > > > CCIE (R & S , Voice)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
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