Re: Proctor lab Voice racks / workbook questions

From: Scott Voll (svoll.voip@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Feb 04 2008 - 15:57:19 ARST


I understand that ATA's are easier if you can actually have physical access
as we use them here but use SCCP not H323. I was expecting them on the
Voice Vlan but since it's a H323 load, that must mean it will show up on the
access Vlan. is this how the Voice lab really works with ATA? Seems like
that would not line up with the SRND.

Thanks for the responses.

Scott

PS. I thought I really knew Voice (I now know I was seriously mistaken ;->
)

On Feb 4, 2008 8:54 AM, Mark Snow <msnow@ipexpert.com> wrote:

> Hi Scott,
>
> The ATA is a difficult device to work with remotely since someone
> might have converted it to a H323 or SIP image.
> Without being local to go physically off-hook and push the button to
> invoke IVR that allows you to control many of the functions such as
> loading a new .zup image - it is difficult to work with.
> Of course in any class we do - as well as in the real lab - you will
> have access to a physical device - making things far easier.
> You can find an ATA 186 on eBay for $20 all day long - I would highly
> suggest just picking up one of these - and spending a little time
> getting used to it (it REALLY doesn't take long at all to get used to).
> In fact that is what most folks that come to our classes do as well -
> since there are so many other things they can be picking the
> instructors' brain about during class.
>
> As to your 2nd question - Voice is a little different than RS or
> Security in its preparation in that the basics (infrastructure: vlans,
> trunking, dhcp, etc ...) do have to be performed every time. With a
> router it is easy to load a base config in - but not as easy with
> server components. We are working on streamlining this. The good news
> is - that since in the Voice lab speed is a factor - that once you
> have done the infrastructure tasks 16 times through (for all of the
> mini-labs) that by the time you reach the multi-protocol labs - you
> will be very fast at these tasks - and indeed you have to be in the
> real lab. You time needs to be focused on getting Dial-Plan working
> flawlessly - and if you aren't speedy at the infrastructure tasks -
> you won't have time for completing everything.
>
>
> HTH Some,
>
> Mark Snow
> CCIE #14073 (Voice, Security)
> CCSI #31583
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> On Jan 30, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Scott Voll wrote:
>
> > I worked on the Voice rack last night for the second time and now
> > have a
> > couple questions:
> >
> > 1. What does it take to get the ATA to grab an IP address so I can
> > get the
> > thing registered? I put the Cat port into voice vlan like I did the
> > 7940.
> > 7940 gets IP and gets registered but even after a power on / off I
> > still
> > can't get the ATA to get an IP address. What am I missing. I spend
> > an hour
> > banging my head.
> >
> > 2. What is the best method to get through the Preparation
> > workbook? I
> > started the first time from the beginning. then last night I was
> > going to
> > start on section 5 and it says you need to have sections 1, 2, and 3
> > done in
> > order to do section 5. is it that I should be able to do Section
> > 1-16 in a
> > single 7.75 hour time period? How do I use my time best? Am I
> > missing
> > something? are configs somewhere that can just be uploaded to get
> > me to a
> > certain part so I can continue to get the later sections done?
> >
> > I have to admit they may seem like simple questions but I'm just
> > starting
> > the CCIE process.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Scott
> >
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