From: dara tomar (wish2ie@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Feb 03 2008 - 08:15:18 ARST
*Hearty Congratulations Gobind !!!!
Regards,
Dara*
On Feb 2, 2008 9:25 PM, Gobind <gobind@inbox.com> wrote:
> I have already read :-
>
> 1.Definitive MPLS Network Designs
> 2.MPLS and VPN Architecture Vol 1 & 2
> 3. BGP Design and Implementation
>
> Now looking to buying workbooks and start practise and meanwhile read
> books side by side,so checking out different vendors.I found that SP has
> advance level of topics in R&S like BGP and additional protocols like
> MPLS.
>
> Gobind
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: smorris@ipexpert.com
> Sent: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:12:13 -0500
> To: gobind@inbox.com, ccielab@groupstudy.com, narbikk@gmail.com,
> christian@subfighter.ca, darbyweaver@yahoo.com, swm@emanon.com
> Subject: RE: *Huge Post*..Passed! 20 yr old CCIE # 19910
>
> There are ways around that part. :) And yes, I'll be at
> Networkers in Orlando! With the SP, you'll find a lot of the basics
> coming back, but a different focus as you are using a lot more BGP
> than in the R&S labs. But take each technology, play with it in
> depth, then start adding things together! It's a process. Any of
> these tests are! There are some decent Cisco Press books on MPLS
> fundamentals and design. Check 'em out. Scott
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Gobind [mailto:gobind@inbox.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 6:12 AM
> To: smorris@ipexpert.com; 'Cisco certification'; 'Narbik Kocharians';
> 'christian'; 'Darby Weaver'; 'Scott Morris'
> Cc: 'Brian McGahan'; bdennis@internetworkexpert.com;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: *Huge Post*..Passed! 20 yr old CCIE # 19910
> Importance: High
>
> Thanks,well Scott,the drinking age in India is 18 yrs,I am really
> happy that it isnt 21 like US,hehe.I knew because when i was there
> for my bootcamp in US,I went to buy beers but could not buy it as I
> was 19 at that time.
>
> I can't even grab a glass of beer with you guys, if I get a chance at
> Networkers in Orlando this year :( (Hope you are coming there)
>
> P.S.:- Any tips for going towards CCIE SP?
>
> --Gobind
> CCIE # 19910
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: smorris@ipexpert.com
> Sent: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 20:08:18 -0500
> To: gobind@inbox.com, ccielab@groupstudy.com, narbikk@gmail.com,
> christian@subfighter.ca, darbyweaver@yahoo.com, swm@emanon.com
> Subject: RE: *Huge Post*..Passed! 20 yr old CCIE # 19910
>
> Congratulations!!! Too bad you aren't old enough to drink in
> celebration!!! (Although, I must admit I have no clue what the
> drinking age is on the other side of the Pond!) :) Go back and
> spend some time with the girlfriend and family before taking on
> another CCIE! Cheers,
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Gobind [mailto:gobind@inbox.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 6:28 PM
> To: Cisco certification; Narbik Kocharians; christian; Darby
> Weaver; Scott Morris; Scott Morris
> Cc: Brian McGahan; bdennis@internetworkexpert.com;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: *Huge Post*..Passed! 20 yr old CCIE # 19910
> Importance: High
>
> Hey Guys!
>
> At last with the blessing of GOD, I manged to pass CCIE exam at
> brussels.This was my third attempt.Yea,I am 20 but I am not
> boasting but rather feeling proud for this accomplishment in the
> conditions I been through while preparing.Its been a long
> journey.I want to say Thanks to Brians,Darby for this tips and
> Scott,Narbik for their endless help rather it be direct or
> indirect as most of the help and information I got to my problems
> was by searching the old archives and most of the archives were
> from Scott and Narbik :).Also want to say thanks to Alexie for
> his posts in Netmasclass,the thing in which I was getting which
> was redistribution,he pulled out a topic from Group Study posted
> by Bruce from Netmasterclass way back,it was huge post on
> Redistribution which really opened my mind in that particular
> area.I can post that link later if someone is interested.Also
> want to say thanks to Eric and Bruno,the proctors of Brussels
> which really helped me(Cheers! if you are reading this post :)
> and to Manoj for talking with me on phone for helping me out in
> my problems and giving me tips for the Lab.
>
> This is a Huge post.I just want to tell everyone that never ever
> give up!!.Always remember:-
>
> "Winners never Quit & Quitters never win!!"
>
> I struggled a lot during my journey to CCIE.It took me 3 years! I
> started studying for CCIE back in 2004 after passing my CCNP when
> I was just 17.My career started when I was studying in 9th grade
> and was working as part time in my areas's local ISP company.I
> use to do installations of Modems,cables for New customers.My
> interest started to grow after I saw Network Engineer f our
> company configuring RIP on Router.My ambition started to grow,I
> wanted to be like him,sitting on chair and configuring Network
> Equiptments remotely.Then I asked him how to learn those kind of
> things and then he recommended me Wendel Odom's CCNA book,that's
> when my career in Cisco started.I managed to pass CCNA and
> started helping that same Engineer in his work of configuring
> routeres and learn new things from him.Later on I managed to pass
> CCNP.
>
> My hunger for Networking started to grow,that's when I joined a
> big company out of the state where I was living,which really
> helped me in studying.I worked there and meanwhile started
> studying for CCIE in 2004.But at that time was also most worst
> part because when people use to lookup at me in India(thats where
> I worked and grew up) they use to mock me "17 year old kid doing
> CCIE?!!! HAHAHA",They use to mock me on my back which also worked
> as spilling petrol in fire for me in my studies due to which my
> determination grew and I wanted to show them that I can do it.But
> at that time I was not upto the mark for CCIE.I took traning in
> Bangalore,it was 2005 mid by then.Then I got know about IE's
> Brian and I saw their sample labs and then I realized that there
> was so much out there to learn.But I didnt had that much finance
> to pay Brian or for my training.So I made up my mind to work hard
> and collect money.After doing 9 to 5 job,I use to Design Websites
> and do Web hosting for many customers.
>
> That business really boosted my income and till the ended of 2005
> and with some financial help from my parents I planned to buy my
> rack and then I posted at GS in Dec 2005 I believe for getting
> help for setting up Rack,Then brian McGahan came forward to help
> me and I bought full Rack of routers and CCIE End to End from
> Brians on which they gave me discount after due to my financial
> condition.I am really grateful for them.I started learn
> technologies more deeply by studying Brian's COD and their
> workbook and meanwhile studying CCIE Practical studies Vol 1 &
> 2(I already completed TCP/IP Vol I & II by this time).
>
> But finance was always problem for me,so I had to work meanwhile
> for collecting money for CCIE Lab exam.But 2006 wasnt really good
> year for me.Due to some personal problems at home I had to sell
> my rack.My CCIE written exam was going to be expired.So I gave my
> written exam again and then I needed to practise on Rack.But the
> Rack rentals price for 20-30 days and training of Bangalore for
> CCIE turned out to be same,HAHA,So I thought I should rather go
> to banglore,this way I got rack access for 1 month physical
> access (My employer really helped me and gave me leave).
>
> But then after reading that how people fails in GS,I was really
> shocked and I made up my mind to take Bootcamp.My friend Manoj
> whom I met in GS recommended me to go Cyscoexpert where Naren
> Mehta who is Co-Author of Book "CCIE Routing and Switching
> Official Exam Certification Guide" and bahram were giving one to
> one training in US.So I decided to go there,so I started
> collecting money and did various projects meanwhile and did
> programming/designing for website,also hosted Live broadcsting
> events.At last I was ready to go.
>
> But before going I did Rack rentals from Chris from CiscoLabs,he
> gave me Rack in damn cheap price.I am thankful to him.I took my
> training in US from CyscoExpert.That training was just awesome!
> It really helped me and I thought I was ready for exam and I
> would pass it.I appeared for my lab on 15th may 2007 at RTP,This
> was my first attempt and I failed.I was really shocked that what
> happened as when i came out of the lab I thought Iwas passed.It
> really shook me.I did't knew what to do.I posted my experience in
> Lab during then.When i returned back to India,I met those guys
> again mocking at me even 2 years after saying that I cant pass
> the labs.So I felt so guilty and thought I couldnt pass it and
> they were right.But my parents supported and girl friend
> supported me and told me to give it another try.After 1 week time
> my I decided that I wont give up and booked my lab date on 5th
> July,2007 in Dubai and guess what I failed again which almost
> made me thing that CCIE is not meant for me and I dint even had
> the courage to post in GS or appear in GS again.I was really
> broken in pieces and started to think that those guys were 100%
> right that CCIE is unattainable for Kid/Teenager like me and I
> dont deserve that.
>
> But after 2 months I really thought that what am I doing?! Even
> after doing so much I am quiting?! So finally I decided to give
> one more attempt again and see my luck.I decided to take Narbik's
> bootcamp under his special offer but due to some personal
> problems I was not able to attend it.I decided to do
> Netmasterclass,Also Chris from CiscoLabs and my old friend Manoj
> gave me advise to do it.So I bought Netmaster DoIT and rented
> Rack from Chirs and started practicing and whole December I
> practised DoIT,especially on Weekends and during Christmas/New
> Year Holidays.
>
> By this time my lab was booked on January 29th at Brussels.I went
> to IE's COD again.Read the redistribution part which really
> sometimes put me in trouble from Forum's of DiscussIT of
> Netmasterclass by Bruce posted by Alexie,Thanks again for that!!
> And not to forget my favorite post from Darby in GS with Subject
> "Lab Approach - Getting Ready for the 3rd Shot at the Title"
> which really helped me in my 3rd shot ;).Thanks Darby for that.I
> got problem in many things but it was mostly previously discussed
> in GS before and was mostly answered by Scott and Narbik,Thanks
> Narbik and Scott!!!
>
> I also remember the topic "Attack by proctor" from GS which said
> the Proctors esp. in Brussels do attack in rack,many CCIE
> candidates came forward and said it.I was also prepared for that
> even i thought it was stupid thing,thinking that maybe sometime
> in middle of m lab I would get problem,hehe
>
> So the Final day,when i entered the lab I was totally freeked
> out.I calmed myself and started my lab and I finished my lab in
> 5.5 hours which was really good sign for me,then i verified the
> solutions from first question from Question one to last and then
> came out of the Lab.I left for the airport from hotel at 5pm.
>
> Now the **Golden Moment**.My Girl Friend called me just after 1
> hr 45 mins,after my lab,exactly at 6:15 pm(as she was checking my
> result) and here what she said "Sweetheart, 19910.." and she
> stopped.I understood that were my digits and I was like NO
> WAY!,Tears came into my eyes with happiness.I couldnt believe I
> passed!! Then i called my parents and gave them the news.That was
> the most preciuos moment of my life.I thanked GOD which blessed
> me.
>
> As per my expeience in Lab there is nothing known as attack by
> proctor in MIDDLE of LAB.And yea Bruno & Eric are not my friends
> and they neither gave me Belgian Beer to say this,hehe.
>
> The people which really helped me from Day 1 when I started
> preparing for CCIE are Brians which helped me technically and
> also financially when I needed help by giving me huge discounts
> in my bad times. GOD Bless you. guys!
>
> Maybe I bored you guys with my story.But I just want to tell you
> that no matter how hard the time can be if you want to attain
> something then go for it,no matter "Whatever it takes".Even in my
> case I was being mocked due to my age or even I failed 3 attempts
> even my financial condition was not good as I was not earning in
> $ but in India Ruppee which really makes difference,believe me.My
> pay from past 3 years and money which came from my business of
> Web Designing/Programming and Broadcasting over IP,all went into
> this studies.Yea I was stupid enough for this because I just had
> this one aim in front of me.I took two tranings in
> bangalore,Rented more than 600 hours of Racktime from different
> vendors,mainly from Chris,Bootcamp in US,three attempts,End to
> End from Brians's CCIE and DoIT from Netmasterclass.I know it
> looks insane but I was crazy enough to put my 100% efforts as
> well as finance in this exam as it was my goal and also shut the
> f**k up of those guys who mocked at me due to my age.They use to
> say that that they had 12 years of experience(they were CCIE
> themself) which was nearly equivant ot my age(I was 17 at that
> time).I respect that they had so much experience and had CCIE but
> they did not had any right to mock at me.
>
> But I have attained what I dreamt for even it took longer than I
> expected but I attained it.
>
> My Next Dream .... "CCIE Service Provider"..hehe.. Now I have to
> dig the way of studiying for this cerfication.I am going to start
> studying for it in few days time.Any advice or guidance would be
> helpful :).
>
> Thanks again to Alexie,Bahram,Brians,Bruce,Chris,Manoj(Thanks for
> taking out time for solving my problems),Naren,Narbik & Scott for
> their help and support in whichever way I got from them :)
>
> --Gobind Singh Gill
> CCIE # 19910
> (Proudly Writing :) )
>
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