From: Gary Duncanson (gary.duncanson@googlemail.com)
Date: Wed Jan 30 2008 - 15:30:02 ARST
Certainly agree with that.
A have found lot of folks in security are really lacking in networking
fundamentals surprisingly. Unlike yourself I think a lot of people just
rapidly moved into it because it was seen as being the cool thing to do. A
recall asking a security specialist some years back if vlans were employed
to provide security on a particular network. He replied 'oh no our security
works at layer 2'
Go figure.
There are a myriad of things to learn concerning network security that go
way beyond the stock stuff many security consultants espouse to know
something about. DAI is just one of them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Santi" <ccie@texas.net>
To: "'Paul Dardinski'" <pauld@marshallcomm.com>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:51 AM
Subject: RE: Multiple IEs
>I would agree with that. Additionally, going for another might help to
> round out your CCIE specialty. For instance, busting my butt for the CCIE
> R&S would help me to better understand the underlying network, traffic and
> flows when I wish to really tear up security. I have been in the security
> field for 8 years now and still learning a lot. However, when I worked
> with
> a couple of engineers that had their CCIE R&S, this really forced me to
> step
> up and learn more about the network. In fact, they created IE level
> problems
> for me to solve and that had to be integrated into a security solution.
> This
> forced to learn about the various protocols and technologies much more
> deeply.
>
> So, since I really wanted to be more than just someone with a single CCIE
> in
> security, I also wanted to assure myself that I had more than just a CCNP
> level of expertise in networks. After working with CCIE R&S engineers, I
> quickly learned that there was much more to the network which is paramount
> to a real solid security design. So, I am studying for the IE R&S before
> obtaining the IE Security.
>
> I hope this is a good plan.
>
> Santi
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Paul
> Dardinski
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:51 PM
> To: EdmondsSG@aol.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Multiple IEs
>
> I think it is because in the first one we all get kind of "weird" and
> pretty much become study addicts:)
>
> PD (#16842)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> EdmondsSG@aol.com
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:20 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Multiple IEs
>
> Why do so many people get their first IE, then immediately go for a
> second
> (SP/VOICE/SECURITY)?
>
> Is almost like they get the IE in say R/S and think .. thats it ..I know
> it
> all now - I can move on to something else.
>
> But it takes years to become a true 'EXPERT' in any field - so dont let
> the
> certifications grandiose title fool ya!
>
> Build on what you have learnt through exam study - become a true expert
> -
> and you will be a man my son ..
>
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