From: keith tokash (ktokash@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Jan 29 2008 - 16:51:07 ARST
One of the dumbest things I did in my preparations thus far has been to jump
straight to the IE vol 2 workbook instead of starting with vol 1 (or
equivalent from other vendor). I thought I knew enough from years of
experience and it has cost me, just a guess here ... ~2 months. 2 months
doesn't sound like much, but that's 2 months of 30+ hours of study a week on
top of my insane job.
With a few exceptions, secrecy is deeply incompatible with democracy and with
science.
--Carl Sagan
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 06:05:14 -0800
> From: darbyweaver@yahoo.com
> Subject: RE: r/s material
> To: ccie@texas.net; tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com
> CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>
> Exactly.
>
> One should learn technology by technology even and
> especially when trying and before trying multiprotocol
> labs.
>
> Let's face it, in every lab we face, the very first
> thing we must do is ensure that a given protocol works
> and works well and as expected to.
>
> If we jump right into multiprotocol labs, particularly
> those offered by our vendors, then we are kind of like
> jumping into World War Three without the benefit of
> attending marksmanship training first. Seriously
> since the bullets are flying in all directions and all
> at once.
>
> Mastering each topic is probably the single-most
> fastest and most efficient way to master the CCIE lab
> and yes... hindsight is 20/20 - even though, I've been
> saying this for a while and not living up to it as
> well in some cases.
>
> But looking over products like Soup To Nuts and
> Advanced Technology Labs and using such products with
> COD/VOD Training and all of this at the same time with
> select Cisco Press books and the DOC CD close at
> hand... is very valuable.
>
> If while doing it, one has a chance to turn on debug
> and then turn on a feature and watch the fireworks,
> then one learns a measure faster and knows "exactly"
> what happened.
>
> But then hey... where would we be without people
> asking questions who for some reason have not seemed
> to lab it in the first place.
>
>
> --- Santi <ccie@texas.net> wrote:
>
> > Good Material? There is Narbik Kocharians, at
> > http://www.net-workbooks.com/, and you can ping him
> > at narbikk@gmail.com ,
> > if you have any questions. Internetwork Experts is
> > also excellent. I don't
> > have first hand experience with IPExperts, but I
> > know several people that
> > believe that Scott Morris' material is very good.
> >
> > Personally, I work with Narbik's stuff most of the
> > time and IE, once in a
> > while. Narbik's material is broken down by
> > technology, with explanations.
> >
> > Santi
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Tony
> > Varriale
> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 5:16 PM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: r/s material
> >
> > Would anyone offer their opinion on r/s lab
> > workbooks? I know Brad and have
> > purchased some products in the past but would even
> > appreciate an opinion on
> > his newer stuff.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
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