From: Scott Morris (smorris@ipexpert.com)
Date: Fri Jan 25 2008 - 17:08:19 ARST
The practical (they're trying hard to not call it a lab!) will not be
multiple choice. Multiple choice exams have a statistical chance of letting
a monkey pass them. literally. Believe it or not, it's actually more
probably than winning the jackpot of most lotteries. :) Go figure.
Anyway, if people migrate from CCIE to CCDE that should make people happier
'cause we'll have freed up dates for labs! heheheeh...
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From: darth router [mailto:darklordrouter@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:57 PM
To: Dane Newman
Cc: smorris@ipexpert.com; Hyunseog Ryu; Brant I. Stevens;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCDE Goes Live
Hopefully it doesn't end up being an easy brain dump. :) I wonder if
presales guys will be all over this and ditch getting their IEs. Sounds like
a cool track and all. Anyone have any idea how the lab is gonna work?
Mulitiple choice :)
On 1/24/08, Dane Newman <dane.newman@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe a test in the ability to BS Senior Management?!
Very useful skill as a networker who enjoys keeping there job.
On Jan 23, 2008 8:47 PM, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
> The 4 people who passed the lab do. I passed the written for it, but it
> wasn't intentionally. (No, I don't deliberately try to fail, they gave me
>
> the wrong free exam at Networkers one year and I didn't pay any attention
> to
> it until the score report said "Congratulations on passing the CCIE Design
> Qualification Exam")
>
> :)
>
> The CCIE-Design was (pun intended) a poorly designed track, and it was
> still
> an implementation-based exam with a bunch of equipment. Interesting idea,
> but hard to manage. The CCDE will not be hands-on in the sense of sitting
> at a router, but more in line with the skillsets required of good network
> designers!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hyunseog Ryu [mailto:r.hyunseog@ieee.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:34 PM
> To: smorris@ipexpert.com
> Cc: 'Dane Newman'; 'Brant I. Stevens'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: CCDE Goes Live
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> If I remember correctly, they used to have CCIE - DESIGN a couple of years
> ago.
> What's the difference between CCIE-DESIGN and CCDE ?
> I assume that some people still have CCIE-DESIGN in active status?
>
> Hyun
>
> Scott Morris wrote:
> | According to all the information, there is going to be one track and
> | one track only. The idea about a design "expert" is that they should
> | not be relegated to only the Voice, Security, Enterprise or SP
> infrastructures.
> | That will make the certification that much more interesting and
> difficult!
> |
> | but you're correct, there will likely be other business-related
> concepts in
> | there as well since they all do (or certainly SHOULD) play a role in
> network
> | design.
> |
> | Scott
> |
> |
> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com ] On Behalf
> | Of Hyunseog Ryu
> | Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:40 AM
> | To: Dane Newman
> | Cc: Brant I. Stevens; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> | Subject: Re: CCDE Goes Live
> |
> | So are they planning to do something like CCDE-RS, CCDE-SP,
> | CCDE-Voice, CCDE-Security in the future ?
> | I'm wondering how they will measure the score for Design.
> | It may come from different business model, and even with same business
> | model, it can be very different from organization to organization
> based on a
> | lot of resource availabilities - budget, engineering resource, human
> | resource, and political background, etc... -.
> |
> | Hyun
> |
> |
> | Dane Newman wrote:
> | | So Is the CCDE going to devalue the CCIE at all? Will cisco require
> | | 4 CCIE's/CCDE now?
> | |
> | | doing a design lab seems alittle less scary no?
> | |
> | | Dane
> | |
> | | On Jan 22, 2008 9:21 AM, Brant I. Stevens <branto@branto.com> wrote:
> | |
> | |> Just thought I'd share...
> | |>
> | |> http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080122/0350542.html
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