From: darth router (darklordrouter@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Jan 25 2008 - 16:57:22 ARST
Hopefully it doesn't end up being an easy brain dump. :) I wonder if
presales guys will be all over this and ditch getting their IEs. Sounds like
a cool track and all. Anyone have any idea how the lab is gonna work?
Mulitiple choice :)
On 1/24/08, Dane Newman <dane.newman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Maybe a test in the ability to BS Senior Management?!
>
> Very useful skill as a networker who enjoys keeping there job.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 23, 2008 8:47 PM, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
>
> > The 4 people who passed the lab do. I passed the written for it, but it
> > wasn't intentionally. (No, I don't deliberately try to fail, they gave
> me
> >
> > the wrong free exam at Networkers one year and I didn't pay any
> attention
> > to
> > it until the score report said "Congratulations on passing the CCIE
> Design
> > Qualification Exam")
> >
> > :)
> >
> > The CCIE-Design was (pun intended) a poorly designed track, and it was
> > still
> > an implementation-based exam with a bunch of equipment. Interesting
> idea,
> > but hard to manage. The CCDE will not be hands-on in the sense of
> sitting
> > at a router, but more in line with the skillsets required of good
> network
> > designers!
> >
> >
> > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> > JNCIE-M
> > #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER
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> >
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> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hyunseog Ryu [mailto:r.hyunseog@ieee.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:34 PM
> > To: smorris@ipexpert.com
> > Cc: 'Dane Newman'; 'Brant I. Stevens'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: CCDE Goes Live
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> > If I remember correctly, they used to have CCIE - DESIGN a couple of
> years
> > ago.
> > What's the difference between CCIE-DESIGN and CCDE ?
> > I assume that some people still have CCIE-DESIGN in active status?
> >
> > Hyun
> >
> > Scott Morris wrote:
> > | According to all the information, there is going to be one track and
> > | one track only. The idea about a design "expert" is that they should
> > | not be relegated to only the Voice, Security, Enterprise or SP
> > infrastructures.
> > | That will make the certification that much more interesting and
> > difficult!
> > |
> > | but you're correct, there will likely be other business-related
> > concepts in
> > | there as well since they all do (or certainly SHOULD) play a role in
> > network
> > | design.
> > |
> > | Scott
> > |
> > |
> > | -----Original Message-----
> > | From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com ] On Behalf
> > | Of Hyunseog Ryu
> > | Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:40 AM
> > | To: Dane Newman
> > | Cc: Brant I. Stevens; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > | Subject: Re: CCDE Goes Live
> > |
> > | So are they planning to do something like CCDE-RS, CCDE-SP,
> > | CCDE-Voice, CCDE-Security in the future ?
> > | I'm wondering how they will measure the score for Design.
> > | It may come from different business model, and even with same business
> > | model, it can be very different from organization to organization
> > based on a
> > | lot of resource availabilities - budget, engineering resource, human
> > | resource, and political background, etc... -.
> > |
> > | Hyun
> > |
> > |
> > | Dane Newman wrote:
> > | | So Is the CCDE going to devalue the CCIE at all? Will cisco require
> > | | 4 CCIE's/CCDE now?
> > | |
> > | | doing a design lab seems alittle less scary no?
> > | |
> > | | Dane
> > | |
> > | | On Jan 22, 2008 9:21 AM, Brant I. Stevens <branto@branto.com> wrote:
> > | |
> > | |> Just thought I'd share...
> > | |>
> > | |> http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080122/0350542.html
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