RE: CCDE Goes Live

From: Scott Morris (smorris@ipexpert.com)
Date: Thu Jan 24 2008 - 23:51:30 ARST


You have three years to pass the CCIE lab after passing the written as well.
It just happens to be broken up into 18 months for the first attempt and 12
months thereafter till a total of three years.
 
Same range.
 

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From: John Jones [mailto:acer0001@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:01 PM
To: Scott Morris
Cc: Hyunseog Ryu; Dane Newman; Brant I. Stevens; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCDE Goes Live

Wow! You have 3 years from passing the Written to pass the lab. Is the lab
twice as hard as the IE tracks since you have only 18 months for them?

http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccde/index.html
<http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccde/index.html>

John

On Jan 23, 2008 7:47 PM, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:

The 4 people who passed the lab do. I passed the written for it, but it
wasn't intentionally. (No, I don't deliberately try to fail, they gave me
the wrong free exam at Networkers one year and I didn't pay any attention to

it until the score report said "Congratulations on passing the CCIE Design
Qualification Exam")

:)

The CCIE-Design was (pun intended) a poorly designed track, and it was still
an implementation-based exam with a bunch of equipment. Interesting idea,
but hard to manage. The CCDE will not be hands-on in the sense of sitting
at a router, but more in line with the skillsets required of good network
designers!

Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE-M
#153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER
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IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor

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From: Hyunseog Ryu [mailto:r.hyunseog@ieee.org]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:34 PM
To: smorris@ipexpert.com <mailto:smorris@ipexpert.com>

Cc: 'Dane Newman'; 'Brant I. Stevens'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCDE Goes Live

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If I remember correctly, they used to have CCIE - DESIGN a couple of years
ago.
What's the difference between CCIE-DESIGN and CCDE ?
I assume that some people still have CCIE-DESIGN in active status?

Hyun

Scott Morris wrote:
| According to all the information, there is going to be one track and
| one track only. The idea about a design "expert" is that they should
| not be relegated to only the Voice, Security, Enterprise or SP
infrastructures.
| That will make the certification that much more interesting and difficult!
|
| but you're correct, there will likely be other business-related
concepts in
| there as well since they all do (or certainly SHOULD) play a role in
network
| design.
|
| Scott
|
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com
<mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com> ] On Behalf
| Of Hyunseog Ryu
| Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:40 AM
| To: Dane Newman
| Cc: Brant I. Stevens; ccielab@groupstudy.com
| Subject: Re: CCDE Goes Live
|
| So are they planning to do something like CCDE-RS, CCDE-SP,
| CCDE-Voice, CCDE-Security in the future ?
| I'm wondering how they will measure the score for Design.
| It may come from different business model, and even with same business
| model, it can be very different from organization to organization
based on a
| lot of resource availabilities - budget, engineering resource, human
| resource, and political background, etc... -.
|
| Hyun
|
|
| Dane Newman wrote:
| | So Is the CCDE going to devalue the CCIE at all? Will cisco require
| | 4 CCIE's/CCDE now?
| |
| | doing a design lab seems alittle less scary no?
| |
| | Dane
| |
| | On Jan 22, 2008 9:21 AM, Brant I. Stevens <branto@branto.com> wrote:
| |
| |> Just thought I'd share...
| |>
| |> http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080122/0350542.html
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