From: darth router (darklordrouter@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Jan 25 2008 - 04:44:06 ARST
Kinda funky stuff. You really need to be a design guy to be a CCIE these
days anyway. Everyone expects everything of
you as an IE. Might as well kill another year or two and knock out the
DE. That or be driven to suicide over all the studying. I sure as hell
hope that DEs
get paid a lot more than IEs, or why even bother with it.
DR
On 1/23/08, subodh.rawat@wipro.com <subodh.rawat@wipro.com> wrote:
>
> May be CCIE will be proved to be more powerful than CCDE as CCDE is
> composition of everything while CCIE is specialization in particular
> field.
>
> ~Subodh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Morris
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:20 PM
> To: 'Dane Newman'; 'Brant I. Stevens'
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCDE Goes Live
>
> What's the potential for devalue? CCIE is an implementation or "doing"
> exam. CCDE is a design exam.
>
> Now, if an employer WANTS to have someone with a CCIE + CCDE, how is
> that a
> devalue? That is just multiple areas of expertise.
>
> Not everyone who can do implementation can design a large network.
> Likewise, not everyone who can design can actually configure the
> specifics.
>
> Think of it as different tracks, or complimentary certs. It certainly
> isn't a devaluation!
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Dane Newman
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:13 PM
> To: Brant I. Stevens
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: CCDE Goes Live
>
> So Is the CCDE going to devalue the CCIE at all? Will cisco require 4
> CCIE's/CCDE now?
>
> doing a design lab seems alittle less scary no?
>
> Dane
>
> On Jan 22, 2008 9:21 AM, Brant I. Stevens <branto@branto.com> wrote:
>
> > Just thought I'd share...
> >
> > http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080122/0350542.html
> >
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