From: Joseph Brunner (joe@affirmedsystems.com)
Date: Wed Jan 09 2008 - 13:01:29 ARST
If you cheat your way to the CCIE you have earned nothing... it's like
having all the $100 bills in the world, and everyone else is dead... what
good is it?
The moment you come in to work (either full-time or as a consultant) and
burn me or my clients I will call/email every recruiter and consultant in
town and get the word out why they shouldn't hire you...
Learn this now...
Do a great job and impress the sh*t out of someone - they tell 2 people
Piss someone off - they will tell 100's of people.
I don't know how it works over in ASIA, but in the US it's a very small
world. In a city of 25 million people (ny area) I routinely run into many
previous colleagues and associates and people that have heard my name...
There is no shortcut for studying hard and learning the right way.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Luan
Nguyen
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:20 PM
To: Cisco certification
Subject: Re: cciecert book ?!!
Eh, at least if you study hard (so you say :) ) and fail, then you could
come in here and cry and get consolation and maybe some nice instructor
somewhere could offer you to take some mock labs for free or let you resit
whatever class you took, yah? Would that make you feel better than getting a
"paper" CCIE? "paper" maybe, CCIE nonetheless!
If i fail, then i might seriously give this thing a thought hehe and worry
about explaining to my wife and kids later :)
-lmn
On Jan 8, 2008 7:56 AM, Ramy Sisy <ramysisy@gmail.com> wrote:
> Totally agree with you.
>
> I have met many "Paper" RS CCIEs they cannot even calculate different VLSM
> subnets for different IPv4 classes.
>
> And they end up by working in very low end technical positions with very
> low
> income compared to standard offered positions.
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
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>
> Ramy Sisy
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Goyal, Avdhesh
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 11:51 PM
> To: Monica Belluci; Cielieska Nathan; Cisco certification
> Subject: RE: cciecert book ?!!
>
>
>
> I also came to know from someone that these guys are providing 4-5 labs
>
> which is very close to real CCIE lab and infact some of them have passed
>
> also using these labs.
>
>
>
> But even myself can't believe in this kind of things and we will go the
>
> way we were going earlier.
>
>
>
> If you pass CCIE and don't know anything, how will you face your
>
> customer? and even your colleagues will not recognise you and they will
>
> 100% call you "Stupid CCIE", if not in front of you, atleast to everyone
>
> else.
>
>
>
> So lets get the number not only for the sake of number. Am I right
>
> ?????/
>
>
>
>
>
> thnx
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>
> Monica Belluci
>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 12:10 PM
>
> To: Cielieska Nathan; Cisco certification
>
> Subject: Re: cciecert book ?!!
>
>
>
> May be it is a fake site ?
>
>
>
> Nalini Roy
>
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2008 11:38 AM, Cielieska Nathan <ncielieska@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Al Gore?
>
> >
>
> > On Jan 7, 2008, at 11:48 PM, Narbik Kocharians wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > How would you get your money back through Internet?
>
> > >
>
> > > On 1/7/08, Joseph Saad <joseph.samir.saad@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >>
>
> > >> They are located on the Internet .. LOL :-)
>
> > >>
>
> > >> On Jan 8, 2008 7:00 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com>
>
> wrote:
>
> > >>
>
> > >>> Totally agreed.
>
> > >>> But let's say you paid 1000 dollars and you purchased the work
>
> > >>> book, and you studied the three four or five labs that they give
>
> > >>> you, and let's say
>
> > >> you
>
> > >>> take the lab and fail, NOW WHAT? WHO WOULD YOU COMPLAIN TO? WHERE
>
> > >>> WOULD YOU GO TO GET A REFUND? WHERE ARE THEY LOCATED?
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>> On 1/7/08, Jonny English <redkidneybeans@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>>
>
> > >>>> Using such material is the quickest way to lose your job and a
>
> > >>>> career
>
> > >>> that
>
> > >>>> puts food on the table. Study hard, and pass on your own merits.
>
> > >>>>
>
> > >>>> On Jan 8, 2008 8:26 AM, Wael Mahmood <wmahmood@prosylab.com>
>
> wrote:
>
> > >>>>
>
> > >>>>> Dear All,
>
> > >>>>>
>
> > >>>>>> does anyone hear about the book that cciecert provide, they say
>
> > >> that
>
> > >>>> it
>
> > >>>>> includes real lab exams and it's solutions.
>
> > >>>>>> what do u know about it?
>
> > >>>>>
>
> > >>>>> Wael
>
> > >>>>>
>
> > >>>>>
>
> > >>> __________________________________________________________________
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> > >>>>
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> > >>>>
>
> > >>>> --
>
> > >>>> Thank You,
>
> > >>>>
>
> > >>>>
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> > >> ___________________________________________________________________
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> > >> __
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> > >>>>
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> > >>>
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> > >>>
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>> --
>
> > >>> Narbik Kocharians
>
> > >>> CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
>
> > >>> CCSI# 30832
>
> > >>> www.MicronicsTraining.com <http://www.micronicstraining.com/>
>
> > >>> Sr. Technical Instructor
>
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>
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
>
> > > --
>
> > > Narbik Kocharians
>
> > > CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
>
> > > CCSI# 30832
>
> > > www.MicronicsTraining.com <http://www.micronicstraining.com/>
>
> > > Sr. Technical Instructor
>
> > > www.Net-WorkBooks.com <http://www.net-workbooks.com/>
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> > >
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