From: backbone systems (backbone.systems@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Jan 04 2008 - 13:26:33 ARST
Hi all,
If u r talking about Narbik ; i can give some useful information . A great
person and a great instructor . I attended his bootcamp a few months ago and
it was fantastic. The bootcamp covers the Blue Print end to end and the
great thing is that Narbik never uses Power Point Slides so u don't get any
chance to sleep.
If u have seen the Advanced Routing and Switching workbook u will notice
that the idea of this workbook is too cover every command for each topic in
the Command Reference. So at the end of each topic when u open the command
reference u know the in and out's .
One great thing about this workbook is that if u just read it from end to
end u will understand everything as there is a lot of explanations as u go
along .U do a lot of practice and hands on during the bootcamp + u get
individual attention.
As a person Narbik is a great man. Since my boot camp I have been in touch
with him and he always prompts very well to all my stupid questions. I will
highly recommend anyone to attend his boot camp and its very cheap as
compared to other vendors.
HTH
BB
On Jan 4, 2008 4:43 PM, Santi <ccie@texas.net> wrote:
> I have been to Narbik's class. I have also been to NetMasterClass. These
> two teach in two very different formats and angles. I used also teach for
> Cisco courses for GlobalNetTraining four years ago, before deploying to
> Iraq. So, I can say I have been on both sides of the field.
>
> Narbik is the best CCIE instructor that I have seen. His format is that
> he
> assumes that you are AT LEAST at the CCNP level before you show up for his
> class. He does not rehash the basics and he does not use PowerPoint. So,
> some students will probably take many notes, predicate upon their level of
> readiness. His class is primarily hands on. He cares very much about his
> students progress, so he takes a personal interest them. He will spend as
> much "individual" time and effort as possible making sure that the
> students
> understand the technology, as well as the application. He wants his
> students
> to be able to think their way through the lab.
>
> By the way, NetMasterClass does not teach by PowerPoint either. They will
> give you handouts, but you will still write "MANY" notes. And NetMaster
> is
> just as brutal and coma inducing. So, in reference to format, your friend
> probably was not adequately prepared for Narbik's class and he found out
> the
> hard way.
>
> Narbik's labs are excellent with all the technologies broken down, along
> with explanations. The class I attended, at GlobalNetTraining, he taught
> until midnight. It was the same in Pasedena, in that he was available
> until
> 12-1am each night.
>
> To make this even better, he allows his students to re-sit the class for
> free. You just have to contact him to work out any details.
>
> His personality is great in that he is very relaxed and has a great sense
> of
> humor. Take this and combine it with the intensity of his instruction and
> you have a hell of an instructor. With the amount of info a student has
> to
> take in, your brain starts to melt by Wednesday or Thursday night. You
> want
> an instructor who can pull you through. This man is the "Rainman" of
> Cisco
> in my opinion. If fact, he obtained this "honor" from a student I sat
> next
> to at GlobalNetTraining and it stuck with him ever since. The "Armenian
> Rainman".
>
>
> Santi
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Sam
> Eckert
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:41 PM
> To: 'Athaide, Dwayne'; 'groupstudy'
> Subject: RE: CCIE Bootcamp recommendations
>
> My friend took a course with Narbik about a year and a half ago and said
> the
> class wasn't very good. He did not care for the format of the class. He
> said
> the class was too basic, he had to take a LOT of notes, and the class hand
> outs were not very good. On the flip said he said that Narbik has a great
> personality and would be a good CCNA instructor. I have also never heard
> of
> the company you are mentioning below, so I would be very careful. I'd
> suggest looking at more established companies like IPExpert,
> InternetworkExpert, CCBootcamp, or NetmasterClass.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Athaide, Dwayne
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:51 AM
> To: groupstudy
> Subject: CCIE Bootcamp recommendations
>
> Group
>
> Based on your experience with the boot camps which one would you
> recommend? I've noticed the one taught by Narbik Kocharians is priced
> very reasonable compared to IPExpert and InternetworkExpert.
>
>
>
> http://www.micronicstraining.com/ccie-routing-switching-lab.html
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
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