From: Ramya S (ramya_1975@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Dec 07 2007 - 18:19:42 ART
It does not matter if you hold multiple ccie's or there are growing number of
ccie's. Your experience and knowledge depth is the most important thing. I am
sure many companies will start to prefer people with more experience.
Regards
Dr Ramya Sen
> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 10:57:34 -0800> From: dtandou@yahoo.com> Subject: Re:
RE: magic numbers> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com> > The only reason the ccie
numbers are growing because there are a lot resources available now than it
used to be. and also the cost to put a lab together went down. routers cost
less now on ebay than they used to be. Since .COM went away everything is
cheap now. everybody can afford rack rental. Some people don't even have to
buy routers or rent a rack because of DYNAMIPS. Now all colege students and
high school students want to be CCIE because there is more money to make.
don't worry the number will be high. Just be a double CCIE or triple CCIE to
make a difference if you are realy conerned about the number going high> Just
my thought.> > Peace up> > > Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>
wrote:> Can I have one of these dumb managers please who are about to get laid
off?> > Everyone I ever worked for knew their stuff :)> ----- Original Message
----- > From: "dara tomar" > To: > Cc: ; > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007
5:19 PM> Subject: Re: RE: magic numbers> > > > *hehehehehe............ :) :)
:)> > > > Yeh Michael, that's true...................... :) :) :)> > > >
Regards,> > Dara> > *> > On Dec 7, 2007 9:49 PM, wrote:> > > >> Excellent
point my friend, the days of telling your manager that it will> >> take a
couple of days to add some routes are coming to an end.> >>> >> :)> >>> >>> >>
Michael Jones> >> Network Engineer> >> Global Network Operations> >> Dell Inc.
| Information Technology> >> W. 512.723.3268 | C. 512.966.6908> >>> >>
-----Original Message-----> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
[mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of> >> Colin McNamara> >> Sent:
Friday, December 07, 2007 10:12 AM> >> To: Cisco certification> >> Subject:
RE: RE: magic numbers> >>> >> One interesting statistic I would like to see is
the> >> distribution of ages across tracks. My guess is that will just over
10> >> years in the program, the first CCIE's have migrated into the
management> >> / principle consultant ranks. Once 2010-2011 rolls around the
"CCIE baby> >> boom" of> >> 2000-2001 should be working their way into
management.> >>> >> Everybody sounds very afraid of a large number of new
CCIE's> >> competing with them for engineering jobs in the market place, while
what> >> I think we should really be worried about is having managers that
know> >> just a little to much.> >>> >> --> >> Colin McNamara> >>
(858)208-8105> >> CCIE #18233,RHCE,GCIH> >> http://www.2cups.com> >>> >> "The
difficult we do immediately, the impossible just takes a little> >> longer">
>>> >> On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 20:20 -0500, Paul Dardinski wrote:> >> > Darby,>
>> >> >> > Please note that I am absolutely certain that Cisco will not allow
the> >>> >> > cert to be devalued. Whenever the magic number hits 30k or
whatever is> >>> >> > really irrelevant. It's a very difficult test and quite
highly valued> >> > in the industry and this has basically caused a larger
number to> >> pursue it.> >> >> >> >> >> > As has been said before here, it's
not so much what the number is vs.> >> > what it means. Honestly I haven't met
too many CCIE's who didn't know> >> > what they were talking about. Yes, there
will always be a few bad> >> > apples, but in the end it's only a milestone,
not an> >> > ending.....besides...there will always be room for
differentiation by> >> > dual-cert, etc.> >> >> >> > PD (#16842)> >> >> >> >
-----Original Message-----> >> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
[mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf> >> > Of Darby Weaver> >> > Sent:
Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:13 PM> >> > To: Scott Vermillion; 'Joseph
Brunner'; 'Gary Duncanson'; 'cindy> >> tanner'> >> > Cc:
ccielab@groupstudy.com> >> > Subject: OT: RE: magic numbers> >> >> >> >
Actually, the CCIE with number 30,000 will likely occur at the> >> > current
rate by the end of 2008.> >> >> >> > The number 20,000 will happen pretty
close to the end of 2007 at the> >> > current rate, unless we just got a big
fluke.> >> >> >> >> >> > Now the number of active CCIE's will dwindle as
well.> >> >> >> > As Narbik pointed only about 16,000 or so active at the
moment.> >> >> >> > Many get into other lucrative careers, advance in
management or other> >> > aspects of I.T.> >> >> >> > And then there are those
who reap what they sow and find out that a> >> > piece of paper truly holds
anything.> >> > I suspect these folks may maintain their certs but some will
just let> >> > go - it is a value proposition.> >> >> >> > Overall the outlook
is favorable. However, the golden halo days are> >> > numbered.> >> >> >> > Of
course being a CCIE versus not being a CCIE....> >> > Still is a worth its
while.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > --- Scott Vermillion > >> > wrote:> >> >>
>> > > Yeah, but it's kinda like guessing the number of jellybeans in a> >> >
> really, really large jar. I'm drawn to such nonsense (and rarely> >> > >
guess anywhere near correctly)...> >> > >> >> > > -----Original Message----->
>> > > From: Joseph Brunner> >> > > [mailto:joe@affirmedsystems.com]> >> > >
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:57 PM> >> > > To: 'Scott Vermillion';
'Gary Duncanson'; 'cindy tanner'> >> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com> >> > >
Subject: RE: magic numbers> >> > >> >> > > Any takers on when 30k comes to
pass??> >> > >> >> > > October 2010> >> > >> >> > > Guess what?> >> > >> >> >
> By then the number certified *might* be 20,000. Many who have it now> >>> >>
> > will lapse, pass away, retire from the business, etc.> >> > >> >> > >
Which in a world of million networks means it's still going to be> >> > >
quite a good living.> >> > >> >> > > Imagine in the WHOLE WORLD there were
*only* 20,000 doctors...> >> > > Imagine how much each one would make...> >> >
>> >> > > ;)> >> > >> >> > > -----Original Message-----> >> > > From:
nobody@groupstudy.com> >> > > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Vermillion> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 2:44 PM> >> > >
To: 'Gary Duncanson'; 'cindy tanner'> >> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com> >> >
> Subject: RE: magic numbers> >> > >> >> > > I can only hope it takes that
long Gary! (and that I somehow> >> > > miraculously pass on my first attempt
in early Feb). Any takers on> >> > > when 30k comes to pass??> >> > >> >> > >
-----Original Message-----> >> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com> >> > >
[mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Gary Duncanson> >> > > Sent:
Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:27 PM> >> > > To: cindy tanner> >> > > Cc:
ccielab@groupstudy.com> >> > > Subject: Re: magic numbers> >> > >> >> > >
Cindy,> >> > >> >> > > It's a mystery to me. I reckon we will be 20000 come
end of> >> > > February.> >> > >> >> > > Regards> >> > > Gary> >> > > -----
Original Message -----> >> > > From: "cindy tanner" > >> > > To: > >> > >
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:10 PM> >> > > Subject: OT: magic numbers>
>> > >> >> > >> >> > > > Experts,> >> > > > As I study and watch the messages
go by, I have> >> > > noticed that numbers> >> > > > 19499> >> > > > and 19519
seem to have occurred on the same day.> >> > > Is Cisco turning out 20> >> > >
> CCIEs per day? I assumed Cisco assigned numbers> >> > > sequentially -
maybe> >> > > > this> >> > > > is not the case? Anybody know?> >> > > >> >> >
> > Cindy> >> > > > cindy.a.tanner@gmail.com> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >
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