Re: I know this CCIE who wouldn't know a packet if it hit him

From: Gary Duncanson (gary.duncanson@googlemail.com)
Date: Thu Dec 06 2007 - 18:10:18 ART


Oh I don't know. You need to know TCP flags for lots of other reasons.
Firewalls are used by many non Security CCIE types.

Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ramya S" <ramya_1975@hotmail.com>
To: <sheherezada@gmail.com>
Cc: <guxiaojian@gmail.com>; <sohail.nedaria@gmail.com>; <cciefun@gmail.com>;
<narbikk@gmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:39 PM
Subject: RE: I know this CCIE who wouldn't know a packet if it hit him in
the ass! ~CCIE Interview Qs~

> Knowing whats there in a packet is not a big deal, its fundamental. But
> if
> one were to be a security ccie, he must know what flags are there in a tcp
> packet.
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> Ramya Sen
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>> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:16:50 +0200> From: sheherezada@gmail.com> To:
> tapas_75@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: I know this CCIE who wouldn't know a
> packet
> if it hit him in the ass! ~CCIE Interview Qs~> CC: guxiaojian@gmail.com;
> sohail.nedaria@gmail.com; cciefun@gmail.com; narbikk@gmail.com;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com> > I had some interviews with Google and some other
> very large employers.> They seem to have a screening interview with
> questions
> down to TCP> flag level, which I didn't like too much. From my CV, it was
> obvious> that my previous jobs were on the higher "OSI" level, like design
> for> example. I expected to be given questions about optimization,>
> security
> and the likes, but their questions were oriented towards> packet analysis.
> So,
> I felt miserably. Besides, if I want to see all> the options, I know where
> to
> search, not to memorize. Now I am> working for a Cisco partner and enjoy
> what
> I am doing, simply because> the job profile matches with my project
> experience
> and personal> skills, not with the TCP packet that I see very rarely.> >
> Mihai> > On Dec 6, 2007 4:46 PM, Tapas Das <tapas_75@hotmail.com> wrote:>
> >
> The device will see the "ether-type" to find the upper layer protocol,
> and> >
> will treat it accordingly... (either to route or switch)> >> > > Date:
> Wed, 5
> Dec 2007 22:54:32 -0800> From: guxiaojian@gmail.com> To:> >
> sohail.nedaria@gmail.com> Subject: Re: I know this CCIE who wouldn't know
> a> >
> packet if it hit him in the ass! ~CCIE Interview Qs~> CC:
> cciefun@gmail.com;>
>> narbikk@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com> > Sure, here is one I like,> >
> How> >> > does a L3 switch router know when to L2 switch an incoming frame
> and> when to> > L3 switch an incoming frame?> > On Dec 5, 2007 10:00 PM,
> Sohail Nedaria> > <sohail.nedaria@gmail.com> wrote:> > > Hi Guys> >> > Can
> you
> guys provide me> > CCIE Interview questions so i can> > also prepare my
> self
> well before i take> > on any interview.> >> > Thanks> > Suhail> >
> CCIE#19337>
>>> >> > On 12/6/07,> > ccie ccie <cciefun@gmail.com> wrote:> > >> > > Hi,>
>>> >> > >
>>> > > I am going off> > bit, but like to share something with you.> > >> >
>>> > > >
> I gave lots of interview> > include CISCO, Google, Yahoo......no end & i>
> >
> gave> > > with out any> > interest to join but to test myself :). I gave
> interview> > for> > > small to> > big organization & i found you can't
> impress
> the interviewer> > only> > > by> > your techniqual knowledge.> > >> > >
> Thing
> to impress them as per my> > understanding are as.> > >> > > 1. Good
> Techniqual Approach> > > 2. If you> > dont know say you dont know this
> time,
> but you will learn &> > find> > > the> > answer.> > > 3. Good
> troubleshooting
> approach (In network always answer withh>> > > refrance> > > to> > > OSI
> layer)> > > 4. Listen interviewer carefully take> > own time to think &
> answer> > > 5. Never underestimate interviewer who knows> > what the other
> side person> > > is.> > > 6. Respect interviwer & appreciate> > him for
> some
> good question.> > > 7. Before go to the interview do your study> > about
> the
> oganization.> > > 8. Last be not least. Give an impression that you> >
> respect
> the> > organization> > > lot, you will love to work for them, you will> >
> give
> longer association &> > > your> > > placement in organization will> >
> contributing lot to generate revenue.> > >> > > Dont forget final
> interview
> is> > always by the management people.> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Mike>
> > >>
>> >>> > > >> > > On 12/6/07, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com> wrote:>
>> >>> > > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > Darth, Are you a CCIE? I don't see your number. But what would
> you> > hate>> > > > to> > > > be asked in the interview? that's the
> question i
> would ask.> > >> > > I would ask him/her what are your weak points and
> what
> are your strong> > >> > > points. Go from there.> > > > Talk to him/her
> about
> some of the problems> > that your firm had and see> > > > what the person
> responds, but don't expect> > the poor CCIE to solve it> > for> > > > you>
> > >
>> in a second. But he/she> > should have an idea as to where to look, from>
>> >
>> that> > > > you should know> > the depth of his/her knowledge.> > > > If
>> you
> or the interviewer is> > experienced enough, the second this> > person> >
> > >
> opens his/her mouth, you> > should know the depth of his knowledge.> > >
> >> >
>> > But once again, CCIEs> > are not gods, they can have a bad day as well.
>> > I>
>> > > personally like to> > focus on the person's attitude and
>> > > personality,> >
>> > obviously> > > > he/she> > got the CCIE cert, which means that the
>> > person
> either knows or> > > knew> > >> > > the stuff and can easily pick up the
> info.> > > >> > > >> > > > My 2 Cent.>> > > > >> > > > On 12/5/07, darth
> router <darklordrouter@gmail.com> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > Ok guys,> >
> > >
>>> > > > > there was a thread a while back talking> > about dumbass CCIE's.
>>> > > > > As
> I> > > > prefer> > > > > not to be the dumbest CCIE> > on the planet, help
> me
> out with questions> > > > that> > > > > you might ask a> > CCIE candidate
> in
> an interview. I have had some> > brutal> > > > > interviews> > since I
> became
> IE. Honestly the questions seem a bit> > basic> > > so> > > > >> > far,
> but I
> have had some really in depth questions about> > > spanning-tree,>> > > >
> > >
> troubleshootin real world EIGRP scenarios, etc.. that really caught> >> >
> me>
>> > > off> > > > > guard. It's not that I could not have solved these> >
> issues, had I> > been> > > > > there> > > > > logged into the routers,
> its> >
> explaining things we take for granted> > can> > > > be> > > > > tough,> >
> especially in interviews. It seems like a lot of> > > > > people are
> amazed> >
> that a CCIE couldn't answer this or that question.> > > > > Personally, I
> am>
>> trying to come up with a knowledge maintanance> > plan,> > > > > like
> reading> > a chapter in the exam cert guide every week. The tasks> > I> >
> > >
>> do not do> > on a daily basis fade quickly.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I
> have of late been> > going way back to basics, reading up on TCP/IP> > > >
> flows,> > > > >> > Ethernet, ARP, looking at packet sniffing traces, etc..
> Someone made> > > > >> > mention> > > > > of the CAM table populating
> entries,
> so I read up on that> > too.> > > > >> > > > > I certainly don't know
> everything, but I would love to.> > Care to give> > > me> > > > > some> >
> > >
>> example questions you might ask a> > CCIE in an interview, or> > >
> technologies> > > > > you> > > > > would expect> > to have him/her to have
> down pat?> > > > >> > > > > DR> > > > >> > > > >> > >> >
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