From: darth router (darklordrouter@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Dec 06 2007 - 02:50:35 ART
Darby,
too funny. I thought it was gonna be one of those "Hey, I have an MCSE too!"
and it ends up being the pizza deliver guy :P
On 12/5/07, Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Come to think of it my mother's uncle was the first
> millionaire in our family...
>
> And as I recall he did it doing hair and not even in
> New York, but in the South West.
>
> It's true it is an art unto itself, but hey one can
> get paid doing most anything they love.
>
>
>
> The story I love best is the pair of CCIE's I met at
> at a corner gas station.
>
> My friend and I were talking aloud about the CCIE and
> one guy said: Yes I got mine a few years back and my
> friend - pointing to another guy in a like a gas
> station shirt did too.
>
> I was surprised but not rude. I said in disbelief,
> you know what a CCIE is?
>
> He answered yes and went into great detail about his
> background as a technical trainer and how he migrated
> to the USA.
>
> Turns out the guy had a Master's Degree in Mechanical
> Engineering and then got a CCIE along with his friend.
>
> They got out of it ASAP and bought a gas station (and
> a not-so busy one by all appearances to me) and
> claimed each made about $120k per month...
>
> He told me working in the IT industry was a lot more
> work and he made what most IT guys make in a year, n
> only a single month. And he just owns the place.
>
> He was leveraging his gas station to buy another city
> block down the street with a convenience store.
>
>
> Use your CCIE wisely.
>
>
> --- darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I knew a gal that made about 50k doing hair. She had
> > all certs of hair
> > certifications. She worked at a salon, and she gets
> > 50% of every procedure,
> > the salon gets the other half. So I suppose if she
> > worked for herself and
> > could bring in her own business, she makes as much
> > as most CCIEs :) I know a
> > guy who does nails. He has a mega huge house. He is
> > doing better than me :P
> >
> > DR
> >
> > On 12/5/07, Durkin, Michael (MED US)
> > <michael.durkin@siemens.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How much does it cost, and how much training does
> > it take to cut hair?
> > > Maybe I am in the wrong line of work.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Ben Holko
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:28 PM
> > > To: Joseph Brunner; Dane Newman; Darby Weaver
> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com;
> > darklordrouter@gmail.com
> > > Subject: RE: CCIE typical contractor rates
> > >
> > > > "Hire an "expert" to do your hair in NYC. You
> > will pay more than $125
> > > per hour. Now tell me what you're network is
> > worth."
> > >
> > > I like it a lot :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Joseph Brunner
> > > Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2007 1:05 PM
> > > To: 'Dane Newman'; 'Darby Weaver'
> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com;
> > darklordrouter@gmail.com
> > > Subject: RE: CCIE typical contractor rates
> > >
> > > >I am from USA New york and I am thinking of
> > putting rates at 100.00 h/r
> > > for
> > > >work done by recruiters and 125 h/r to possibly
> > 150 h/r depending on
> > > the
> > > >company and type of work for direct work. Are
> > these reasonable rates?
> > >
> > > My rates exactly friend. 9/10 people just say yes.
> > Plus Get about 25%
> > > more
> > > for O.T. Rate (after 6pm or weekends/holidays).
> > >
> > > I usually just say "I require the greater of $100
> > per hour or 85% of the
> > > billing rate". If they aren't billing at least
> > $125 per hour to their
> > > client
> > > I give them my "hiring an expert" in NYC speech.
> > >
> > > "Hire an "expert" to do your hair in NYC. You will
> > pay more than $125
> > > per
> > > hour. Now tell me what you're network is worth."
> > >
> > > Joseph "NYC"
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Dane
> > > Newman
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 8:10 PM
> > > To: Darby Weaver
> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com;
> > darklordrouter@gmail.com
> > > Subject: Re: CCIE typical contractor rates
> > >
> > > I am getting into the consulting game also.
> > >
> > > The problem is I can consult on a bunch of
> > different things. Anything
> > > Microsoft (active directory, exchange 2k3 and 2k7,
> > sharepoint ect) and
> > > Citrix where the bulk of my exp lies plus Some
> > Cisco now.
> > >
> > > Do people who are consulting charge different
> > rates depending on the
> > > type of
> > > job they are doing? I could imagion being asked
> > to do something as
> > > simple
> > > as patch an OS to something more technical to
> > design and build a whole
> > > Network/Systems infrastructure.
> > >
> > > I am from USA New york and I am thinking of
> > putting rates at 100.00 h/r
> > > for
> > > work done by recruiters and 125 h/r to possibly
> > 150 h/r depending on the
> > > company and type of work for direct work. Are
> > these reasonable rates?
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/5/07, Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Darth,
> > > >
> > > > I bill about $125.00 per hour for consulting +
> > price
> > > > of materials (up front).
> > > >
> > > > My contracts state:
> > > >
> > > > Materials due 100% at the inception of a
> > contract.
> > > >
> > > > Expected Labor is 1/2 down on start of project
> > and
> > > > then 1/2 at the end of project for smaller
> > projects.
> > > >
> > > > These types of contracts usually encompass about
> > a
> > > > $2000.00 project to about a $20,000 project.
> > Actual
> > > > work per project is about 2 days to about 8-10
> > days
> > > > tops. Sometimes I spread them out a bit.
> > > >
> > > > Time and Materials for long-term projects.
> > > >
> > > > Now, I'm not a CCIE either.
> > > >
> > > > I expect your solo rates will vary as many can
> > tell
> > > > you from this group.
> > > >
> > > > And note, I am from the famously underpaid
> > south...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey guys/gals,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have just been getting back into the work
> > game. I
> > > > > am curious about
> > > > > contracting. I have a steady client that pays
> > me
> > > > > about 100 an hour for a set
> > > > > amount of hours per mo. I suppose I could
> > probably
> > > > > get a much better rate if
> > > > > I wanted to push it. I work direct for them,
> > and was
> > > > > not recruited through a
> > > > > recruiter. It's my first consulting gig. When
> > you
> > > > > take jobs through
> > > > > recruiters, how much can you expect to make?
> > How
> > > > > much do these guys make on
> > > > > top of your wage? I am not after any real
> > specific
> > > > > answers here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Generally speaking, how much do yall bill for?
> > Do
> > > > > you bill less if you are
> > > > > garanteed more hours, maybe even months of
> > work?
> > > > >
> > > > > DR
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> > > Dane Newman
> > > MCSE: Messaging, CCNP, CCEA
> > >
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