From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Dec 06 2007 - 00:46:50 ART
Come to think of it my mother's uncle was the first
millionaire in our family...
And as I recall he did it doing hair and not even in
New York, but in the South West.
It's true it is an art unto itself, but hey one can
get paid doing most anything they love.
The story I love best is the pair of CCIE's I met at
at a corner gas station.
My friend and I were talking aloud about the CCIE and
one guy said: Yes I got mine a few years back and my
friend - pointing to another guy in a like a gas
station shirt did too.
I was surprised but not rude. I said in disbelief,
you know what a CCIE is?
He answered yes and went into great detail about his
background as a technical trainer and how he migrated
to the USA.
Turns out the guy had a Master's Degree in Mechanical
Engineering and then got a CCIE along with his friend.
They got out of it ASAP and bought a gas station (and
a not-so busy one by all appearances to me) and
claimed each made about $120k per month...
He told me working in the IT industry was a lot more
work and he made what most IT guys make in a year, n
only a single month. And he just owns the place.
He was leveraging his gas station to buy another city
block down the street with a convenience store.
Use your CCIE wisely.
--- darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com> wrote:
> I knew a gal that made about 50k doing hair. She had
> all certs of hair
> certifications. She worked at a salon, and she gets
> 50% of every procedure,
> the salon gets the other half. So I suppose if she
> worked for herself and
> could bring in her own business, she makes as much
> as most CCIEs :) I know a
> guy who does nails. He has a mega huge house. He is
> doing better than me :P
>
> DR
>
> On 12/5/07, Durkin, Michael (MED US)
> <michael.durkin@siemens.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > How much does it cost, and how much training does
> it take to cut hair?
> > Maybe I am in the wrong line of work.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Ben Holko
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:28 PM
> > To: Joseph Brunner; Dane Newman; Darby Weaver
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com;
> darklordrouter@gmail.com
> > Subject: RE: CCIE typical contractor rates
> >
> > > "Hire an "expert" to do your hair in NYC. You
> will pay more than $125
> > per hour. Now tell me what you're network is
> worth."
> >
> > I like it a lot :)
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Joseph Brunner
> > Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2007 1:05 PM
> > To: 'Dane Newman'; 'Darby Weaver'
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com;
> darklordrouter@gmail.com
> > Subject: RE: CCIE typical contractor rates
> >
> > >I am from USA New york and I am thinking of
> putting rates at 100.00 h/r
> > for
> > >work done by recruiters and 125 h/r to possibly
> 150 h/r depending on
> > the
> > >company and type of work for direct work. Are
> these reasonable rates?
> >
> > My rates exactly friend. 9/10 people just say yes.
> Plus Get about 25%
> > more
> > for O.T. Rate (after 6pm or weekends/holidays).
> >
> > I usually just say "I require the greater of $100
> per hour or 85% of the
> > billing rate". If they aren't billing at least
> $125 per hour to their
> > client
> > I give them my "hiring an expert" in NYC speech.
> >
> > "Hire an "expert" to do your hair in NYC. You will
> pay more than $125
> > per
> > hour. Now tell me what you're network is worth."
> >
> > Joseph "NYC"
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Dane
> > Newman
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 8:10 PM
> > To: Darby Weaver
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com;
> darklordrouter@gmail.com
> > Subject: Re: CCIE typical contractor rates
> >
> > I am getting into the consulting game also.
> >
> > The problem is I can consult on a bunch of
> different things. Anything
> > Microsoft (active directory, exchange 2k3 and 2k7,
> sharepoint ect) and
> > Citrix where the bulk of my exp lies plus Some
> Cisco now.
> >
> > Do people who are consulting charge different
> rates depending on the
> > type of
> > job they are doing? I could imagion being asked
> to do something as
> > simple
> > as patch an OS to something more technical to
> design and build a whole
> > Network/Systems infrastructure.
> >
> > I am from USA New york and I am thinking of
> putting rates at 100.00 h/r
> > for
> > work done by recruiters and 125 h/r to possibly
> 150 h/r depending on the
> > company and type of work for direct work. Are
> these reasonable rates?
> >
> >
> > On 12/5/07, Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Darth,
> > >
> > > I bill about $125.00 per hour for consulting +
> price
> > > of materials (up front).
> > >
> > > My contracts state:
> > >
> > > Materials due 100% at the inception of a
> contract.
> > >
> > > Expected Labor is 1/2 down on start of project
> and
> > > then 1/2 at the end of project for smaller
> projects.
> > >
> > > These types of contracts usually encompass about
> a
> > > $2000.00 project to about a $20,000 project.
> Actual
> > > work per project is about 2 days to about 8-10
> days
> > > tops. Sometimes I spread them out a bit.
> > >
> > > Time and Materials for long-term projects.
> > >
> > > Now, I'm not a CCIE either.
> > >
> > > I expect your solo rates will vary as many can
> tell
> > > you from this group.
> > >
> > > And note, I am from the famously underpaid
> south...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey guys/gals,
> > > >
> > > > I have just been getting back into the work
> game. I
> > > > am curious about
> > > > contracting. I have a steady client that pays
> me
> > > > about 100 an hour for a set
> > > > amount of hours per mo. I suppose I could
> probably
> > > > get a much better rate if
> > > > I wanted to push it. I work direct for them,
> and was
> > > > not recruited through a
> > > > recruiter. It's my first consulting gig. When
> you
> > > > take jobs through
> > > > recruiters, how much can you expect to make?
> How
> > > > much do these guys make on
> > > > top of your wage? I am not after any real
> specific
> > > > answers here.
> > > >
> > > > Generally speaking, how much do yall bill for?
> Do
> > > > you bill less if you are
> > > > garanteed more hours, maybe even months of
> work?
> > > >
> > > > DR
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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