From: Brian Dennis (bdennis@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Mon Nov 26 2007 - 19:51:23 ART
Yes the preparation strategies are not the same.
Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
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>----- Original Message -----
Subject: RE: game plan for CCIE LAB -Voice
Date: Mon, November 26, 2007 14:12
From: "Guyler, Rik" <rguyler@shp-dayton.org>
> What...did I miss something? I wasn't really commenting on any
> particular type of lab prep, just a general observation. Do you believe
> that you should study differently for the different types of CCIE? I
> wouldn't have thought so but what do I know. ;-)
>
> Rik
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Morris [mailto:smorris@ipexpert.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 5:05 PM
> To: Guyler, Rik; 'Scott Vermillion'; 'Scott Voll'; 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: RE: game plan for CCIE LAB -Voice
>
> Interesting that the viewpoint IS indeed different for Voice vs. R&S.
> :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guyler, Rik [mailto:rguyler@shp-dayton.org]
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 4:35 PM
> To: Scott Vermillion; smorris@ipexpert.com; Scott Voll; Cisco
> certification
> Subject: RE: game plan for CCIE LAB -Voice
>
> Me too. I've read more than one instructor say to NOT take the bootcamp
> until you are just around the corner from your lab. Not to say one way
> is better over the other...just different. From personal experiences in
> the past (not CCIE related) I have found that knowing more about a given
> subject allows me to learn more about what I'm being taught on that
> subject since I already have the basics down and can pay more attention
> to the subtleties at that point. Just my opinion.
>
> Rik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Vermillion
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 4:01 PM
> To: smorris@ipexpert.com; 'Scott Voll'; 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: RE: game plan for CCIE LAB -Voice
>
> Well, that's two professional instructors who have come out in favor of
> going early and going often! So I think it's official that the other
> other Scott's approach is a wise one.
>
> Question: Not having been through a bootcamp yet, are they structured
> such that someone new to lab prep would not be able to drag down those
> who are days or weeks away from sitting the lab? I'm guessing so since
> you guys who teach are in favor of this, which is a bit of a surprise to
> me, honestly...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Morris [mailto:smorris@ipexpert.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 1:55 PM
> To: 'Scott Vermillion'; 'Scott Voll'; 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: RE: game plan for CCIE LAB -Voice
>
> An interesting view, but look at it a different way....
>
> Some companies (at least IPexpert) has a resit policy. Not that I
> advocate using that, but IF circumstances dictate...
>
> Take a bootcamp to absorb information AND to get a week (or two?) away
> from the office/normal work in order to concentrate on your studies.
> Take the lab when its coming up. If you still happen to not pass it,
> retake the bootcamp. You'll gain more from it the second time around
> anyway, and have a better perspective for which things you need more
> help on.
>
> A lot depends on how much time your company is willing to give in the
> long-run.
>
> HTH,
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Vermillion
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 2:38 PM
> To: 'Scott Voll'; 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: RE: game plan for CCIE LAB -Voice
>
> Back July or August, I scheduled my lab for Feb '08. At the time, I
> thought it was a looooong way out. Now I feel like that date is coming
> at me like a freight train!
>
> I wouldn't personally waste valuable study time sitting through a
> bootcamp unless I could really absorb what was being churned out. So if
> you're pretty strong across the board, go for it. But otherwise don't
> waste that week or two. Just get started and hope for one shot at the
> bootcamp and likewise one shot at the lab!
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Voll
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:02 PM
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: game plan for CCIE LAB -Voice
>
> OK--
>
> I got my Lab test scheduled for May 30, 2008 (holy cow that's a long
> ways out).
>
> I'm looking at taking the IPExpert bootcamp and they also offer a
> guarantee that if you don't pass you can retake OR take it again before
> the test. I'm thinking about taking the bootcamp now.......
> study, study, study, then take the bootcamp again before the test.
> Any thoughts?
>
> Scott
>
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