From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Nov 21 2007 - 16:57:16 ART
Let's be honest. The labs are all mostly about the
same level of difficulty that I have had the
experience of taking so far. And since I'm getting
outside of the stated average number of attempts, I
can say so with a fair degree of certainty and of
experience.
No they are not as hard as some of the practice
materials that are on the market, yes they can
challenge the depths of one's knowledge and experience
with the IOS...
That's what it is about, right?
Just my take...
:)
--- Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think Doc CD is pretty good but you still need a
> work book to go with it
> that puts the commands in a scenario and explains
> things in details. The Doc
> CD does do that. I believe you definitely need a
> work book to go with the
> Doc CD.
> I am NOT trying to sell a work book here, i am
> stating my honest
> opinion. Doc CD alone does not cut it.
>
>
> On 11/21/07, Gary Duncanson
> <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Andy,
> >
> > Good philosophy. That's what I do. You could try
> and know everything cold
> > but you would end up being sectioned under the
> Mental Health Act ;)
> >
> > Rgds
> > Gary
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andy Cole" <Andy.Cole@foremostfarms.com>
> > To: "Gregory Gombas" <ggombas@gmail.com>; "Simon
> Grace"
> > <SimonG@pcsystems.gr>
> > Cc: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:37 PM
> > Subject: RE: Difference in Exam
> >
> >
> > > There are things you need to know 'cold'. IP
> Routing Multicast QoS
> > > Security IS Services Bridging and Switching.
> You should at least read
> > > them, thoroughly. Main thing to keep in mind
> when you are reading these
> > > is WHY would I use this variation over another?
> (OSPF stub vs. NSSA,
> > > etc.)
> > >
> > > Anything else you come across, like Web Caching
> find where it is in the
> > > DOC CD get an overview. On the more obscure
> topics, best to know WHERE
> > > in the DOC CD you can find it than know them
> 'cold'.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Gregory Gombas
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:34 PM
> > > To: Simon Grace
> > > Cc: Cisco certification
> > > Subject: Re: Difference in Exam
> > >
> > > I feel your pain. Everyone says "hey just read
> the DOC CD" casually as
> > > if its a quick read over breakfast. Has anyone
> actually tried to print
> > > the DOC CD?!?
> > >
> > > I've printed all the topice relevant to the R+S
> and I counted over 6000
> > > pages of text to read. So I'm not sure how
> realistic it is to read
> > > through and retain it all. Its like painting the
> golden gate bridge - by
> > > the time you get to the end the beginning is
> already getting rusty.
> > >
> > > So can anyone suggest a more efficient way of
> going through the DOC CD
> > > or perhaps the most relevant portions?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > On Nov 20, 2007 5:10 AM, Simon Grace
> <SimonG@pcsystems.gr> wrote:
> > >> Hi Guys,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I've left this a few days before I wrote it as
> I needed to calm down.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Back in September I took my first lab exam. I
> used the Internetworking
> > >
> > >> expert labs and due to me not being quick
> enough and not leaving
> > >> myself enough time to work on the real tricky
> questions I just missed
> > > out.
> > >>
> > >> Okay, no problems with that, I didn't deserve
> to pass and needed to up
> > >
> > >> my game a bit.
> > >>
> > >> Without going into details that by knowing the
> stuff on the IE labs
> > >> and the various areas covered you should be
> okay in the lab. There
> > >> were a couple of new questions I'd not seen but
> that's to be expected.
> > >
> > >> The lab was of a fair level.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Okay, I got back on the study, got my speed up
> and basically hit it at
> > >
> > >> 150%. I carried on with the IE labs but really
> nailed them, I also
> > >> checked out a lot of the things that came up
> here and lab'd stuff up
> > >> that I'd not seen before.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Went back last week, knowing that nothing is
> certain but knowing that
> > >> my skill level was much higher than the first
> time around and I only
> > >> just missed that.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I was blown away, firstly the exam was much,
> much harder than the
> > >> first one. I read through the exam and realised
> that a good proportion
> > >
> > >> of the questions I was seeing for the first
> time. Not to mention the
> > >> way the questions were asked. Once again
> without going into details it
> > >
> > >> wasn't a case of configure this it was put in
> such a way to make it as
> > >
> > >> difficult as possible to ask a question. Not
> just once, twice but once
> > >
> > >> again, many difficult questions. I couldn't
> help but feel that they
> > >> had made the exam so difficult that they were
> really trying to stop
> > >> people from passing. Going by the exam 2 months
> before and then this
> > >> one, they was absolutely no comparison, the
> second was just mind
> > > blowing.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Now, I'm no Einstein, but I did work very hard
> on this and I know my
> > >> stuff, but when the score report comes back I
> really can't help but
> > >> feel that something really isn't quite right, I
> feel like the goal
> > >> posts have been completely moved. Plus I know
> the stuff was working
> > >> and I know where I dropped points but the score
> report doesn't reflect
> > > that.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I got chatting to a guy after the exam who'd
> had the same lab. He'd
> > >> also sat one a couple of months before and had
> been studying about the
> > >
> > >> same amount of time and talking to him I get
> the idea that he too
> > >> knows his subject. We both agreed fully that it
> was just on another
> > >> plane and couldn't understand how two exams
> could be so different in
> > >> expected level of knowledge.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> So, I'm writing this not in a lets go on a burn
> and pillage rampage
> > >> but rather has anyone else had similar
> experiences, do you feel a bit
> > >> let down by the fact that there appears to be
> no standard level for
> > >> the exam. I'm trying to speak with our Cisco
> guys here to see what can
> > >
> > >> be done. Obviously Cisco own it and do with it
> what they want but I
> > >> don't like to be treated unfairly and will try
> and do whatever is in
> > >> my power to get things sorted. The price of the
> exam including flights
> > >
> > >> etc isn't cheap and we deserve a level playing
> field.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Please unicast me, no need to go into details
> but more on the lines of
> > >
> > >> found the exam to be fair or totally different
> levels, whatever you
> > >> feel relevant.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Oh well, I'm gonna take a few weeks off, think
> about things and then I
> > >
> > >> suppose get back into it.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I wish you guys who are going to take the exam
> all the luck and don't
> > >> worry, if you get something on the lines of the
> first one you are
> > >> getting a fair crack of the whip.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >>
> > >> Simon.
> > >>
> > >>
>
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