From: Joseph Brunner (joe@affirmedsystems.com)
Date: Sun Nov 04 2007 - 16:42:16 ART
George,
I have the IEWB Vol II Version 4.1 and the IEXPERT proctor's guide, version
9.0.
That's a lot of material to use.
I have done many labs both at home, at work and I have always reviewed their
answers after doing my best to solve within 8 hours. A real expert does not
need their solutions.
You are not going to pass the lab doing labs and just looking at their
answers. Having the answers makes you a weaker candidate than one who can
use the DOC CD to grade their OWN SCORE on these practices labs. That is
how I do it now.
So, while I have a lot of good things to say about both, I can tell you the
answers that the proctor's guide had were very helpful. I got about same
insight from both vendors, expect for the first 5 labs with IEWB vol II,
which they really explained the basics.
If you are going to pass or fail, the answers the vendors give you in their
workbooks having nothing to do with in.
You need to learn the technologies at a CCIE's level to have a chance. The
real test is worded so tricky its mind boggling when I come home and figure
out the answers on my rack.
-Joe
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From: George Goglidze [mailto:goglidze@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 9:47 AM
To: smorris@ipexpert.com
Cc: Joseph Brunner; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: ipexpert v9.0 lab 23
Hi Scott,
Thanks for clarification.
it does not break anything.
the problem is that, when I see something I think I was not asked to do, I
start to question all my abilities to interpret the tasks.
and it makes me think maybe my English or my technical skills are not good
enough, or whatever.
I understand in real life, that would be a good thing to do.
but we're working on lab. and are using these workbooks to make sure we know
things before we go for the real thing.
this workbooks should be designed with this in mind, and not bring any
confusions in something as serious as a CCIE lab.
As I go through all the sections (I'm on 25th now), I understand that the
solutions that are given are not worth the price we pay for it.
My company is looking forward for buying internetworkexpert now. hope it
will be at least a little better.
On the other hand, I might not have time to go through internetworkexpert
too, as my exam is planned for 31st of January,
and labs take a lot time, considering that I'm working full time 9am to 6pm.
Many thanks and regards,
On 11/4/07, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
That particular lab does not have a specific requirement for summarization
(other than the total stub area). It is something that is sometimes done
to minimize the route table in real life, and perhaps something the person
who created this lab was used to doing.
It doesn't fall into my rule of "no more no less" but it doesn't interfere
with any other requirement either. I will lab this one back up and make
sure the solutions don't break any rules, but plain old summarization is
just to make things look tidier. (in theory!)
HTH,
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE-M
#153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
George Goglidze
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 1:35 PM
To: Joseph Brunner
Cc: Cisco certification
Subject: Re: ipexpert v9.0 lab 23
Hi Joseph,
Thanks, that's the thing, in the Seciton 23 lab, they don't ask you to
filter anything.
Thanks for your help anyway.
Regards,
On 11/3/07, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
>
> Area range is used for LSA 3 (summary) filtering also, as well as
> summarizing.
>
> Did any task say something like "all /32 routes should not appear",
> etc outside area X (from a P2MP network, etc.)
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of George Goglidze
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 11:50 AM
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: ipexpert v9.0 lab 23
>
> Hi all,
>
> In answers, they do "area range", but I read the lab many times, and
> I don't find anywhere where it would ask to summarize anything.
> not directly, not indirectly (at least I think so).
>
> Can you please tell me, according which task, we assume that we have
> to summarize?
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
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