From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Oct 18 2007 - 06:31:37 ART
Good point.
I'm just going through the first couple of labs in
version 4 and have not yet made that distinction yet.
I did recall that being an issue from about version 2,
I think, when I had went to NMC's bootcamp, and took
me a bit to overcome since I was considerably weaker
with switching at the time (about lethargic), and used
the chart as a "crutch" and when it was removed... I
trembled and fell a bit - but that was a reference to
a past event from about 2 years ago and may not
represent the current product at all.
The current product is much improved by the way. I'm
impressed that each lab appears to have nearly 100
pages more or less of very well written and easily
understood descriptions of exactly what is happeing in
each lab.
And I'll tell you another thing, and this is premature
since I'm only on the third one and there are at least
7 available at the moment, those COD's that you guys
have taken the time to create... are the best thing
since sliced bread.
I watch so many questions get asked over the years
hear on GS, you know the how or why, etc. Why this
solution versus these other 2 or 3... And you guys
hit PAYDIRT... with the COD. I was surprised at how
much you packed in and did so, incredibly concisely
too.
The product is FANTASTIC! I understand that others
are following this trend. The pricing is great and
the value is there...
Talk about taking a handful of labs, say just labs 1-5
or 1-7 and just mastering them. Know the why/why not
and taking the time to enjoy the mastery of some of
the more complex issues discussed in each lab.
The COD's allow one to do this, verus spending a lot
of time second guessing solutions - happens alot on
this list.
So 100 pages or so of descriptions and breakdown and
then a carefully worded COD... that spots the
issues...
Kewl idea brought to life and masterfully executed.
--- Brian Dennis <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>
wrote:
> Darby,
> In version 4 of the IEWB Vol 2 Workbook there
> isn't a "style" to how
> the VLANs are given. There was a "style" in version
> 3 to how things
> were done but in version 4 you will find that there
> are many "things"
> done differently between the labs. Sometimes you
> get the VLAN
> information in a table, sometimes through the output
> of various show
> commands, sometimes you are asked to determine the
> VLANs needed by
> referencing the diagram and finally sometimes they
> are already done for
> you in the initial configurations.
>
> Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
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>
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> Subject: Re: IEWB sample lab - switching approach
> Date: Wed, October 17, 2007 21:08
> From: "Darby Weaver" <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
>
> > I would not fall in love with any vendor's style
> of
> > how they depict the VLAN's given.
> >
> > Since you never know what you may be given as (an)
> > exhibit(s) and you never know what may be asked
> later
> > that may not appear in the initial given
> exhibit(s)
> > anyway.
> >
> > I'd almost recommend just looking at a given
> diagram
> > and then making my own table and diagrams from
> that.
> >
> > Then, I'd read the lab tasks given and ensure that
> > there are no other tasks that modify, add, or
> remove
> > anything from the initial given materials and go
> from
> > there.
> >
> > I recall going to my first NMC Bootcamp... and I
> was
> > used to IE's charts... kicked me into lala trying
> to
> > get used from one to the other style. Realtime.
> >
> > But it made me think differently too. And Bob
> > Sinclair will tell you first thing... that Switch
> > diagram and color codes (vlan = color) real
> quickly...
> >
> > Hard to digest at first for some like me...
> >
> > Get used to seeing them anyway they can be thrown
> at
> > you and quckly get used to asking yourself what
> they
> > are doing.
> >
> > Ask yourself, where's the root bridge... of each
> > spanning-tree instance. Is it where you want it?
> >
> > Lots of stuff one needs to pay attention too and
> all
> > at the same time.
> >
> > You'll get used to it after a while.
> >
> > But that diagram will become as important as your
> L3
> > to some folks... especially later in the lab
> if/when
> > you find yourself troubleshooting something you
> > thought you resolved earlier in the morning.
> >
> >
> > --- shiran guez <shiranp3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I think the key to understand how the logical
> > > topology work is to know the
> > > Physical topology so I would draw that first,
> then
> > > if the logical topology
> > > is not already given to you then I would draw it
> to
> > > but I would not delay on
> > > that for ever.
> > >
> > > Vlan Table is also a key element as if you want
> to
> > > be quick and know
> > > problems before they start then you need it.
> > >
> > > Note: some time its just as easy as it look but
> for
> > > training I would
> > > practice worst case so in the lab I would not be
> > > tackled due to a hard
> > > looking topology.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/15/07, CCIE.LAB <ccie.lab@verizon.net>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On doing the sample labs, what is the
> recommended
> > > approach on the CAT
> > > > Switching sections.
> > > >
> > > > Do I need to draw out the switch topology or
> is it
> > > just as easy as it
> > > > looks
> > > > by configuring what's in the vlan tables
> > > > and then configure the appropriate trunks in
> the
> > > trunk table?
> > > > Does the switch config come into play
> elsewhere in
> > > the lab that I should
> > > > draw
> > > > it out?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thnks
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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