Re: OT Re: Will CCIE lab walk on the same road as

From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Oct 14 2007 - 16:11:49 ART


Guys/Ladies DON'T believe all these pass on the first go cra..... it's all
B.S, i personally don't believe that Cisco will let that happen, CCIE
generates lotssssssssssssa $$$$$ for Cisco.

Some of my students spent lots of money on these so called real labs and
they all failed, I personally don't know one person that bought these labs
knowing nothing and passed on the first go, but I know lotsa people that
don't know anything and have not even seen a router or a hub but they are
CCNAs, CCNPs and some are even CCSPs. i actually had the pleasure of talking
to this CCSP that did not know how to configure an extended ACL to block
telnet.

On 10/14/07, Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> You have to love China:
>
> There is where a place offers to teach you those
> things...
>
> They offer:
>
> Day 1: The Switch
> Day 2: A lab
> Day 3: A lab
> Day 4: A lab
> Day 5: A lab
> Day 6: A lab
> Day 7: A lab
>
>
> Then offer:
>
> Week 1: The Switch
> Week 2: Labs from Day 2 and 3
> Week 3: Labs from Day 4 and 5
> Week 4: Labs from Day 6 and 7
>
> So if one can get real labs so efficiently
> delivered...
>
> And take the lab in just 5 weeks...
>
> Wow! And pass the first time...
>
> These guys will aparently sit you down with a small
> army of CCIE's who walk their students through each
> "real lab" they get their hands on.
>
> Talk to zhanglin
>
>
> And someone once asked where all the other CCIE
> numbers are going...
>
> Use Google.com.cn
>
> See for yourself. There are forums...
>
> So is the Cicco CCIE Center in China going to slow
> down or open up more seats?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Farhan Anwar <farhan.anwar@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Cyrus,
> > Remember, doing a CCIE is just the beginning,
> > sustaining it is also hard
> > enough. After attaining the popular number, ppl
> > expect you to be an Expert
> > as the label says, but if you are not what they
> > think of, your survival is
> > tough in the competent market. Sure one can make
> > $1000/month using Rentacert
> > ;) but whats the point in attaining it if all you
> > wanted is the $1000 rent.
> >
> > Let Cisco take care of its CCIE Program's integrity,
> > uniqueness and
> > intensity.
> > Let us concentrate on the matters which help us in
> > attaining our number
> > honestly.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Farhan.
> >
> > On 10/14/07, sirus MOGHADASIAN <cyrus.mgh@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi GS,
> > >
> > > I find at least two site that sell real ccie lab
> > scenarios that have
> > > product
> > > like this (6 Real Labs(2006) + 4 NEW Real
> > Labs(2007)!!!!!!!!!!)
> > >
> > > if this is true:
> > >
> > >
> > > I think CCIE Lab is now is as trivial as
> > CCNA,CCNP,MCSE, and what ever
> > > exam
> > > that u can find thier dumps out there.
> > >
> > > somebody with no knowledge can now be certified as
> > CCIE.
> > >
> > > IMHO,what keep glory of CCIE is now gone ,now
> > people can dump this exam as
> > > others.
> > >
> > > I don't wanna disappoint u but I completely lost
> > and pretty hopeless at
> > > this
> > > moment and feel what we spent our time on it is
> > now not as valuable as
> > > before.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cyrus
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Farhan Anwar
> > www.farhananwar.com
> >
> >
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-- 
Narbik Kocharians
CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
CCSI# 30832
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