From: Bajo (bajoalex@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Oct 10 2007 - 00:29:23 ART
Adding to Brad ideas to get rid off backlogs: do away with the 28-day
rule and pay upfront upon scheduling and get a pro-rated refund if you
drop.
On 10/9/07, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
> I agreed with Mr. Brad,
>
> They need more test sites... I love California, but 1/2 of the people in
> America live between Chicago-Boston-NY-DC (in a triangle). NY, OH, PA, IL,
> NJ and MA alone have 100 Million people. That is not cool to have no testing
> center in that megalopolis...
>
> Cisco is basically saying they are Sh*t cheap with the CCIE program... They
> can pay Kiss to play Networkers!!!! And they can't employ two CCIE proctors
> at Their NYC PENN PLAZA OFFICE... (3 subways stop's from my house!!!!)
>
> LOL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Vermillion
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 5:09 PM
> To: 'Christopher M. Heffner'; 'Brad Ellis'; 'Eric Dobyns'; 'Brian Dennis'
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com; security@groupstudy.com; comserv@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Lab Price Increase
>
> I personally could learn to live with 90 days. I would likely abandon
> pursuit of the CCIE altogether and get back into the business of working for
> a living if it were 180 days. I'm not sure I would even keep the one date I
> already have booked, although I might.
>
> Interesting thoughts on how the "real test" sites would react. I'd also
> wager that their business would pick up markedly, as the consequences of
> failure would be higher than some would be willing to risk. Better to take
> the "appropriate" steps to ensure 80 points in the minds of some, no
> doubt...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Christopher M. Heffner
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:29 PM
> To: Brad Ellis; Eric Dobyns; Brian Dennis
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com; security@groupstudy.com; comserv@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Lab Price Increase
>
> Brad,
>
> All very valued points for going to a longer retry interval.
>
> I think the "real test sites" would just get more people involved for
> testing the CCIE lab exam to get around the six month issue.
>
> I agree the backlog would get better but it would also get better if Cisco
> invested more $$$ into additional pods for some of the other CCIE tracks
> besides R&S. Let's face it that ONE security rack per day available in RTP
> is what is causing the backlog to begin with in this incident.
>
> I totally agree with it helping with the never ending story of "I will keep
> taking the exam until I pass" routine.
>
> I personally think that changing the retake policy to 90 days instead of 6
> months would work just as well.
>
> But this is all just rumor anyway for now ...
>
> Later.
>
> Chris "Bulldog" Heffner
> Strategic Network Solutions, Inc.
>
> www.certified-labs.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Ellis [mailto:brad@ccbootcamp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 2:40 PM
> To: Christopher M. Heffner; Eric Dobyns; Brian Dennis
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com; security@groupstudy.com; comserv@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Lab Price Increase
>
> It might suck, but that would definitely solve a bunch of problems:
>
> 1) It would make it much harder for those "real test sites" to get updates
> 2) The backlog wouldnb t be so bad - there would be a lot more seats
> available
> 3) People would stop using the "take the test every 30 days until I pass"
> technique. I know a few folks who have taken the lab like that 8 or more
> times until they pass. (This method gives a high percentage of "same lab"
> possibilities.)
>
> thanks,
> Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> CCSI# 30482
> CEO / President
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher M. Heffner [mailto:cheffner@certified-labs.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:07 AM
> To: Brad Ellis; Eric Dobyns; Brian Dennis
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com; security@groupstudy.com; comserv@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Lab Price Increase
>
> Now that would really "suck" big time!
>
> Chris Heffner, CCIE 8211, CCSI 98760
> Strategic Network Solutions, Inc.
>
> www.certified-labs.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Ellis [mailto:brad@ccbootcamp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 2:22 PM
> To: Christopher M. Heffner; Eric Dobyns; Brian Dennis
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com; security@groupstudy.com; comserv@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Lab Price Increase
>
> I've heard that Cisco may change their re-take policy from 30 days to 6
> months for failed tests...but just rumors so far.
>
> thanks,
> Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> CCSI# 30482
> CEO / President
> CCBOOTCAMP - A Cisco Sponsored Organization (SO)
> Email: brad@ccbootcamp.com
> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
> Direct: +1-702-968-5100 = Outside the USA
> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
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> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>
> Register to win a free iPhone! http://www.ccbootcamp.com/iphone.html
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Christopher M. Heffner
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:32 AM
> To: Eric Dobyns; Brian Dennis
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com; security@groupstudy.com;
> comserv@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Lab Price Increase
> Importance: Low
>
> Please DON'T give them any ideas.
>
> This is an expensive enough profession.
>
> Chris Heffner, CCIE 8211, CCSI 98760
> Strategic Network Solutions, Inc.
>
> www.certified-labs.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Dobyns [mailto:eric_dobyns@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:43 PM
> To: 'Brian Dennis'; Christopher M. Heffner
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com; security@groupstudy.com;
> comserv@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Lab Price Increase
>
> Right now, I think they could charge twice that and still fill up their
> seats.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Brian Dennis
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:22 PM
> To: Christopher M. Heffner
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com; security@groupstudy.com;
> comserv@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Price Increase
>
> Someone "announced" it here a few weeks ago ;-)
>
> Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
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>
>
>
> On Oct 8, 2007, at 6:00 PM, Christopher M. Heffner wrote:
>
> > Did anyone else notice the lab price increase made by Cisco for the
> > CCIE Labs?
> >
> >
> >
> > I noticed when checking lab dates that the price for the lab is now
> > $1400.00 per attempt.
> >
> >
> >
> > I donb t see any announcement on the CCIE website for the price
> > increase.
> >
> >
> >
> > Is this just being quietly changed without an announcement?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Christopher M. Heffner, CCIE 8211, CCSI 98760
> >
> > Strategic Network Solutions, Inc.
> >
> >
> >
> > HYPERLINK "http://www.certified-labs.com/"www.certified-labs.com
> >
> >
> >
> > b(*
> >
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