From: Scott Vermillion (scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com)
Date: Mon Oct 01 2007 - 18:21:47 ART
Hey DR,
If you can stand to be on hold indefinitely, you might consider a call to
the certification support folk. They probably can't answer your question
directly but may know how to route it. I think a lot of folks around here
would be very interested in your findings. I've never found anything online
about this and the folks within Cisco I've talked to don't seem to know much
about these rules or don't want to discuss them for some reason. It hasn't
been urgent for me as my number is a ways out just yet, but I have had it in
the back of my head lately. I'm sure lots of other folks have too.
Regards,
Scott
From: darth router [mailto:darklordrouter@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 3:09 PM
To: Scott Vermillion
Cc: Joseph Brunner; Gregory Gombas; Ian Blaney; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: Rentacert.com
Thats why i was looking for the rules online. It has to be a certain amount
of involvement for you to park your number and get paid. I met a guy working
for a local company that was parking his number, but he lived in a different
state and did the majority of his work there. I am not sure if cisco ousted
him or not, but it did not last long.
DR
On 10/1/07, Scott Vermillion <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com> wrote:
Well, from my perspective, there needs to be a middle ground. Just as you
do Joe, I work independently. I have never used a recruiter in my life
(yet). I work strictly through established relationships. There is one
company in particular I have been doing a lot of business with. They are an
integrator/reseller that sometimes - but nowhere near always - requires my
outside expertise, some of which could be described as "niche." I don't
personally resell anything in terms of hardware through my own company, so
the number has no value to me right now as far as that goes. So there's
potentially a win-win to be found by parking my (future) number with these
guys. That would help them along their quest for gold status and it would
benefit me by helping to sustain the relationship. If they were to fail to
send any business my way after an extended period of time, I'd have to
consider having that pulled. The idea of parking my number there would
essentially be that not all of the work that they win is CCIE-level, thus
they don't need a full-time CCIE, but when they do get that level of work,
it needs to involve the person whose number helped to land it. If they're
going out and getting that level of work using their gold status/a person's
number, but keeping the work entirely in-house, then there's a problem that
needs rectifying. I personally would not simply park my number for a flat
fee without any involvement in their "CCIE-level business."
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Joseph Brunner
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:38 PM
To: 'darth router'; 'Gregory Gombas'
Cc: 'Ian Blaney'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: Rentacert.com
Then Cisco should ask for proof of employment from gold partners including
benefits statements, irs withholding records, and copies of your end of year
w2 forms. If a CCIE is paid $17k for a year's work that should send up a red
flag.
A guy with a ingram account and 4 CCIE's he never met should not be allowed
to be "gold partner" of Cisco. This is why I keep seeing fake wic's and fake
gear. Let's lock this down.
Do you how hard it is for a watch store to be an "authorized Rolex Dealer".
Rolex realized it was in their brand's quality standards to be very
selective on who can sell their products. And yes, there is plenty of
competition in the watch world too!
-Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com
<mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com> ] On Behalf Of
darth router
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 2:59 PM
To: Gregory Gombas
Cc: Ian Blaney; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: Rentacert.com
Well, if it comes down to just getting another IE to get that gold status,
they might not care about you working or not.
On 10/1/07, Gregory Gombas <ggombas@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I heard this was common in the roaring 90's. CCIE's would get paid
> just by letting someone use their number.
>
> Not sure if that will fly these days - companies actually expect you
> to work for the money now :-(
>
> On 10/1/07, Ian Blaney < <mailto:ian.blaney@gmail.com>
ian.blaney@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Looks a bit dodgy to me but I would be willing to whore my number for
> that
> > sort of money.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/1/07, darth router < darklordrouter@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Can anyone point me to the cisco site with the rules on CCIE use? I am
> > > wondering if I can really rent out my number for some extra $$$$$$$
> > >
> > >
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