From: Joseph Brunner (joe@affirmedsystems.com)
Date: Fri Sep 14 2007 - 21:20:24 ART
You mean you aren't going to work for MY Company one day?
LOL
TGIF
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Morris [mailto:smorris@ipexpert.com]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:55 PM
To: 'Joseph Brunner'; 'Guyler, Rik'; 'Brian Dennis'
Cc: 'peter morgan'; 'darth router'; 'ccie784'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
Is that deductible? ;)
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Brunner [mailto:joe@affirmedsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 4:17 PM
To: 'Guyler, Rik'; 'Brian Dennis'; 'Scott Morris'
Cc: 'peter morgan'; 'darth router'; 'ccie784'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
Well,
If Brian or Scott is ever in NYC they can have a bottle or a pint on me and
the IRS!
-LOL
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Guyler, Rik
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 3:05 PM
To: 'Brian Dennis'; Scott Morris
Cc: 'peter morgan'; 'darth router'; 'ccie784'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
Obviously another reason to support our top quality vendors. I don't care
what the reasons are why Brian helped him out, it just goes to show you that
there are still good people out there that think there might be something
more important than a dollar. I know I'm thankful for all the time the
Brians and Scott spend on GS and hope they never get burned out from the
"crap" that gets slung around from time to time. It would be a shame if any
of them (I left several names out...sorry) left for good because we
mistreated them here.
Thanks again you guys!
Rik
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Brian Dennis
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 1:07 PM
To: Scott Morris
Cc: 'peter morgan'; 'darth router'; 'ccie784'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
Of course there is more to the story as to exactly why he was "helped" but
yes I did help him out. I do make special considerations for people in
certain situations.
Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
Internetwork Expert, Inc.
http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
Toll Free: 877-224-8987
Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
On Sep 14, 2007, at 5:59 AM, Scott Morris wrote:
> Heheheehh... I'm going to assume there were other things in the
> background.
> Complaining or talking loudly does not get anyone free materials!
> Otherwise, I would think everyone would just complain! The catch is
> to target your audience and work something out!
>
> If you want free materials, provide a service to the vendors.
> Contact the
> various sales folks and come up with some worthwhile business proposal
> about testing/reviewing/updating their products during your studies.
> No matter how good anything is, it can always use improvement and a
> different perspective. But it's important to make the vendor think
> they are getting something out of it as well!
>
> No sense being naughty though! :)
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> JNCIE #153, CISSP, et al.
> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
>
> A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
>
> smorris@ipexpert.com
>
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> http://www.ipexpert.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of peter morgan
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:36 AM
> To: darth router; ccie784
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
>
> Thanks Darth!
>
> You r a real naughty boy!
>
> You r always looking at the back
> side of girls!
>
> Brian, Scott don"t give him anything free; because he is a naughty boy
> (Not like me)!
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: darth
> router <darklordrouter@gmail.com>
> To: ccie784 <ccie784@googlemail.com>
> Cc:
> peter morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com>; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Sent: Friday,
> September 14, 2007 2:16:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807) Grats man on the CCIE
> man!
>
> So all we gotta do for free stuff is complain!
> Brian, I could use some free stuff! I will gladly complain!. Scott
> Morris, could you please get on this bandwagon as well? I would like
> your service provider workbook! :)
>
> DR
>
>
> On 9/14/07, ccie784 <ccie784@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> Congratulation !! Nice post. IE is great vendor, no doubt!!
>
> On
> 9/14/07, peter morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I was able
> to catch my fish in 10th September 2007. Got my green
>> number (18807) in my
> 4th attempt. I have never given up & keep on doing
>> the
>> exam. Here is my
> small story. It is like a fairy tail.
>>
>> I have passed my
>> first R&S Written
> in May 2004. Then it has expired after 18 months without
>> taking an attempt.
> Then I got a free Cisco partner voucher from my office
>> &
>> used it to get my
> written back in Feb 2006. I was keeping on study from
>> there
>> onwards & I
> was able to take few months of continuous leave from my office
>> for
>> the
> exam. But I was not in confidence to sit for the exam in 2006. I came
>> to
>>
> another country for a new job. I got lots of free time after I changed
> my
>>
> job
>> & then started to study in a schedule.
>>
>> Finally I have decided to
> take & LAB
>> attempt in April 2007. It was a disaster for me. Also I was not
> able reach
>> the
>> LAB location in the correct time because the CAB driver was
> not able to
>> find
>> the place & he lost the way. I lost around 50mins in my
> first attempt. I
>> have
>> taken another attempt in May 2007 thinking that I
> failed because of short
>> of
>> time.
>>
>> For my 2nd attempt I have booked a
> hotel very close (Walking
>> Distance) to the LAB location. I went the LAB
> before 30mins earlier. But
>> it
>> was another disaster. Then I realized that I
> am lack of knowledge. Then I
>> have
>> stared to re-read many of books &
> bought one of famous vendors work book.
>> Previously I have been using their
> old work books which has download from
>> a
>> free site. Then after few months
> I went back to the LAB.
>>
>> My 3rd attempt
>> scheduled in Aug 2007. I booked
> same hotel & went early to the place. I
>> was
>> able to understand many of
> questions & was able to answer properly. But I
>> sucked in few occasions
> because of my mistakes & taken time to recover
>> from
>> them. After the LAB I
> got the same result (Failed).
>>
>> Then I came back &
>> written down all of my
> mistakes. I was able to identify my main weakness
>> as
>> the lack of hands on
> practice & not the knowledge. So I have decided to
>> buy
>> rack sessions from
> IE & I have booked racks in every day & week ends
>> double or
>> triple rack
> sessions. I have studied with less number of sleeping hours
>> (4-5
>> hours per
> day). Also I got another schedule for the LAB on 10th September
>> 2007. So I
> have studied very hardly without even taking proper sleep. I
>> think
>> your
> guys can remember one of my previous posts of IE rack support issue
>> . I
>>
> was not able to find the place to get support at that time from IE.
> But
>>
> Brian
>> & his great IE staff guided me & cleared my issue. Then next day
> morning I
>> have realized that I have addressed the case not nicely &
> apologize from
>> Brian. Because I was in different mind set when I was doing
> my practice
>> labs.
>> Then Brian sent me & email with telling that he has
> decided to stop
>> posting to
>> GS because of the
>> threats of people like me.
> I got really upset because I knew that there
>> are
>> many candidates in GS
> like me who are expecting support from people like
>> Brian, Scott & other
> senior CCIEs. So I begged him & apologize from him
>> with
>> many emails.
> Finally he accepted my apology. By the time Brian asked me to
>> provide
> details of the products which I have bought from IE. Because he
>> was
>>
> thinking to provide more support via his sales team. Actually I haven
> t
>>
> bought
>> any of products from IE & I was using one of my friend s old IE
> materials.
>> But
>> anyway I was thinking to buy their COD within few days
> because many people
>> recommended it. Then I have sent few package selections
> which I am
>> expecting
>> to buy from IE, expecting a good discount. But in a
> nice morning I checked
>> my
>> mail box & found an email from Brian. He has
> given access to IE WB VOL I,
>> VOL
>> II, VOL III, and Advanced Technology COD
> & also Online Boot Camp. Brian
>> has
>> gone ahead & given me the access to
> above
>> materials free of charge. Also he has doubled my rack sessions by his
>> sales team. Also he asked me that, if I want more products then to
>> update
> him. I
>> was
>> not able to believe this & get upset about what I have done by
> sending
>> email
>> to GS complaining their rack support. I told Brian that I
> will do
>> anything to
>> recover the damage which I was trying to do by posting
> it un-necessarily
>> to GS
>> (They have great/quick support option in IE member
> area named as ticketing
>> system. I was not aware about the option
> previously. They provide support
>> within few minutes when you get an error).
> But Brian just wanted to pass
>> the
>> exam with his gift. He never expected
> anything from me. I was really upset
>> about what was happened & thinking
> about Brian s good heart. So, Brian
>> requested only my pass of exam. I have
> decided to pass my exam anyhow in
>> 10th
>> September 2007. I worked very
> hardly & never slept some days. I used Brian
>> s
>> gift-rack sessions, COD
> materials, etc .I
>> have scheduled many racks (Actually I have scheduled one
> in the LAB day
>> morning as well). So I was doing my rack practice & study
> without
>> considering
>> about any other thing. I haven t called to my friends,
> family members &
>> forgot
>> many my personal life activities. But I went to
> office in every week day
>> as
>> usual. When I got a free time then I started
> to listen to IE COD. Finally
>> I
>> got sick because of the lack of sleep. I
> got a dynamic toothache (Changing
>> from one place to another place day by
> day) & a painful skin rash. I haven
>> t
>> gone to meet a doctor (I have free
> health insurance from company). I used
>> detol for the tooth ache & decided
> to take medicine after the exam. I have
>> kept on study forgetting about the
> pain.
>>
>> The day was 9th September 2007, I
>> have traveled to Dubai. Stay in
> the same hotel (Tulip Inn- Knowledge
>> Village).
>> I have entered the hotel
> 11.00PM in the night. Slept till 5.00AM in the
>> next
>> day (Lab Day) morning.
> After a wash I I have practiced 30 minutes with my
>> scheduled IE rack. Then I
> walked to the Cisco Building; Went to 3rd floor
>> as
>> usual. I was the first
> one came to the place. So three of other candidates
>> were there later. One of
> Indian girl, also among the candidates. Procter
>> (Yosuf) called us to come in
> to the LAB 5 minutes earlier. He explained
>> the
>> next schedule. One
> candidate came in to the LAB 30 mins later because his
>> driver taken him a
> ride. I have started the LAB as I planned earlier. Read
>> all
>> the LAB book &
> drawn few diagrams. It has taken 30 mins for me. Suddenly I
>> got
>> something
> like de-hydration in the LAB & I drunken water in many times.
>> Also
>> went
> toilet many times. (May be side effects of my previous hard study).
>> Procter
> called for the lunch; I was just in my schedule. So we had good
>> lunch
>>
> with procter s advice. Yosuf (Dubai Procter) is really nice gentlemen.
>>
> Because
>> four of my attempts I have seen him handling candidates nicely.
>>
>>
> So, after
>> the lunch I have scored many points with fast typing. As I planned
> final
>> hour
>> used for the testing. I used Brian s score sheet method. Based
> on Brian s
>> score sheet my score was 96. May be 100 because I have not
> revised my
>> answers
>> when I come back. I knew that I have 16 marks buffer.
>>
>> After the exam I went
>> to Dubai City centre & bought few items. I was
> stuck there in the long
>> taxi
>> queue. Finally I was able catch my flight &
> came back. I have logged into
>> the
>> site & found that my number & pass. I
> was not able sleep & next day went
>> to
>> office as usual. I sent my first
> email to Brian but he has not replied
>> yet.
>> May be he has not received my
> email or he has blocked me because of so
>> many
>> emails sent by me.
>>
>> So
> guys my advice is work hard & gets it with your
>> effort. Don t wait till your
> number comes to you. Just work hard & get it.
>> I
>> have taken four attempts &
> I got four different LABS. So it has not
>> repeated
>> to me. So don t expect
> it. Some people saying that it has happened to
>> them;
>> but it may be very
> rare case. One person asked same question from Procter
>> & he
>> told that
> there are many LABs. But sometimes they may repeat.
>>
>> I can only
>>
> recommend IE materials & Racks because I have passed with them & Brian
> s
>>
> good
>> hart. I have no words to thank Brian & IE. Thanks a million tims ..to
>> Brian & IE.
>>
>> Believe me Brian is a really good hatred man!!!!!!!!!! He
> is a really
>> sensitive person. Brian my hat s off to you for nice preparing
> material &
>> support!
>>
>> Note: Guys, don t post any un-necessary emails to GS
> or Brian by
>> following me to get free IE products. I still feel bad about
> what I have
>> done
>> even after I got my number. Actually I was in another
> mentality &
>> different
>> world when I am posting that complain to GS. ( I can
> say that was not me
>> that
>> was my dark side of the mind). Sorry guys!
>>
>>
> Finally I must thank to GS;
>> without GS I will never get anything for this
> year.
>>
>> Thanks to all the GS
>> members for the being here. I learnt a lot
> from your discussions.
>>
>> Bye for
>> now,
>>
>> PM
>> CCIE # 18807
>>
>>
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