From: Greg Wendel (gwendel@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Sep 14 2007 - 17:50:41 ART
I'll buy the drinks if they are in the Washington DC, Northern Virginia
area.
Greg,
On 9/14/07, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
>
> Well,
>
> If Brian or Scott is ever in NYC they can have a bottle or a pint on me
> and
> the IRS!
>
> -LOL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Guyler, Rik
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 3:05 PM
> To: 'Brian Dennis'; Scott Morris
> Cc: 'peter morgan'; 'darth router'; 'ccie784'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
>
> Obviously another reason to support our top quality vendors. I don't care
> what the reasons are why Brian helped him out, it just goes to show you
> that
> there are still good people out there that think there might be something
> more important than a dollar. I know I'm thankful for all the time the
> Brians and Scott spend on GS and hope they never get burned out from the
> "crap" that gets slung around from time to time. It would be a shame if
> any
> of them (I left several names out...sorry) left for good because we
> mistreated them here.
>
> Thanks again you guys!
>
> Rik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Brian Dennis
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 1:07 PM
> To: Scott Morris
> Cc: 'peter morgan'; 'darth router'; 'ccie784'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
>
> Of course there is more to the story as to exactly why he was "helped" but
> yes I did help him out. I do make special considerations for people in
> certain situations.
>
> Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>
> On Sep 14, 2007, at 5:59 AM, Scott Morris wrote:
>
> > Heheheehh... I'm going to assume there were other things in the
> > background.
> > Complaining or talking loudly does not get anyone free materials!
> > Otherwise, I would think everyone would just complain! The catch is
> > to target your audience and work something out!
> >
> > If you want free materials, provide a service to the vendors.
> > Contact the
> > various sales folks and come up with some worthwhile business proposal
> > about testing/reviewing/updating their products during your studies.
> > No matter how good anything is, it can always use improvement and a
> > different perspective. But it's important to make the vendor think
> > they are getting something out of it as well!
> >
> > No sense being naughty though! :)
> >
> >
> > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> > JNCIE #153, CISSP, et al.
> > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> > IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> >
> > A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
> >
> > smorris@ipexpert.com
> >
> > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> > Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> > http://www.ipexpert.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of peter morgan
> > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:36 AM
> > To: darth router; ccie784
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
> >
> > Thanks Darth!
> >
> > You r a real naughty boy!
> >
> > You r always looking at the back
> > side of girls!
> >
> > Brian, Scott don"t give him anything free; because he is a naughty boy
> > (Not like me)!
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: darth
> > router <darklordrouter@gmail.com>
> > To: ccie784 <ccie784@googlemail.com>
> > Cc:
> > peter morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com>; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Sent: Friday,
> > September 14, 2007 2:16:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807) Grats man on the CCIE
> > man!
> >
> > So all we gotta do for free stuff is complain!
> > Brian, I could use some free stuff! I will gladly complain!. Scott
> > Morris, could you please get on this bandwagon as well? I would like
> > your service provider workbook! :)
> >
> > DR
> >
> >
> > On 9/14/07, ccie784 <ccie784@googlemail.com>
> > wrote:
> > Congratulation !! Nice post. IE is great vendor, no doubt!!
> >
> > On
> > 9/14/07, peter morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Guys,
> >>
> >> I was able
> > to catch my fish in 10th September 2007. Got my green
> >> number (18807) in my
> > 4th attempt. I have never given up & keep on doing
> >> the
> >> exam. Here is my
> > small story. It is like a fairy tail.
> >>
> >> I have passed my
> >> first R&S Written
> > in May 2004. Then it has expired after 18 months without
> >> taking an attempt.
> > Then I got a free Cisco partner voucher from my office
> >> &
> >> used it to get my
> > written back in Feb 2006. I was keeping on study from
> >> there
> >> onwards & I
> > was able to take few months of continuous leave from my office
> >> for
> >> the
> > exam. But I was not in confidence to sit for the exam in 2006. I came
> >> to
> >>
> > another country for a new job. I got lots of free time after I changed
> > my
> >>
> > job
> >> & then started to study in a schedule.
> >>
> >> Finally I have decided to
> > take & LAB
> >> attempt in April 2007. It was a disaster for me. Also I was not
> > able reach
> >> the
> >> LAB location in the correct time because the CAB driver was
> > not able to
> >> find
> >> the place & he lost the way. I lost around 50mins in my
> > first attempt. I
> >> have
> >> taken another attempt in May 2007 thinking that I
> > failed because of short
> >> of
> >> time.
> >>
> >> For my 2nd attempt I have booked a
> > hotel very close (Walking
> >> Distance) to the LAB location. I went the LAB
> > before 30mins earlier. But
> >> it
> >> was another disaster. Then I realized that I
> > am lack of knowledge. Then I
> >> have
> >> stared to re-read many of books &
> > bought one of famous vendors work book.
> >> Previously I have been using their
> > old work books which has download from
> >> a
> >> free site. Then after few months
> > I went back to the LAB.
> >>
> >> My 3rd attempt
> >> scheduled in Aug 2007. I booked
> > same hotel & went early to the place. I
> >> was
> >> able to understand many of
> > questions & was able to answer properly. But I
> >> sucked in few occasions
> > because of my mistakes & taken time to recover
> >> from
> >> them. After the LAB I
> > got the same result (Failed).
> >>
> >> Then I came back &
> >> written down all of my
> > mistakes. I was able to identify my main weakness
> >> as
> >> the lack of hands on
> > practice & not the knowledge. So I have decided to
> >> buy
> >> rack sessions from
> > IE & I have booked racks in every day & week ends
> >> double or
> >> triple rack
> > sessions. I have studied with less number of sleeping hours
> >> (4-5
> >> hours per
> > day). Also I got another schedule for the LAB on 10th September
> >> 2007. So I
> > have studied very hardly without even taking proper sleep. I
> >> think
> >> your
> > guys can remember one of my previous posts of IE rack support issue
> >> . I
> >>
> > was not able to find the place to get support at that time from IE.
> > But
> >>
> > Brian
> >> & his great IE staff guided me & cleared my issue. Then next day
> > morning I
> >> have realized that I have addressed the case not nicely &
> > apologize from
> >> Brian. Because I was in different mind set when I was doing
> > my practice
> >> labs.
> >> Then Brian sent me & email with telling that he has
> > decided to stop
> >> posting to
> >> GS because of the
> >> threats of people like me.
> > I got really upset because I knew that there
> >> are
> >> many candidates in GS
> > like me who are expecting support from people like
> >> Brian, Scott & other
> > senior CCIEs. So I begged him & apologize from him
> >> with
> >> many emails.
> > Finally he accepted my apology. By the time Brian asked me to
> >> provide
> > details of the products which I have bought from IE. Because he
> >> was
> >>
> > thinking to provide more support via his sales team. Actually I haven
> > t
> >>
> > bought
> >> any of products from IE & I was using one of my friend s old IE
> > materials.
> >> But
> >> anyway I was thinking to buy their COD within few days
> > because many people
> >> recommended it. Then I have sent few package selections
> > which I am
> >> expecting
> >> to buy from IE, expecting a good discount. But in a
> > nice morning I checked
> >> my
> >> mail box & found an email from Brian. He has
> > given access to IE WB VOL I,
> >> VOL
> >> II, VOL III, and Advanced Technology COD
> > & also Online Boot Camp. Brian
> >> has
> >> gone ahead & given me the access to
> > above
> >> materials free of charge. Also he has doubled my rack sessions by his
> >> sales team. Also he asked me that, if I want more products then to
> >> update
> > him. I
> >> was
> >> not able to believe this & get upset about what I have done by
> > sending
> >> email
> >> to GS complaining their rack support. I told Brian that I
> > will do
> >> anything to
> >> recover the damage which I was trying to do by posting
> > it un-necessarily
> >> to GS
> >> (They have great/quick support option in IE member
> > area named as ticketing
> >> system. I was not aware about the option
> > previously. They provide support
> >> within few minutes when you get an error).
> > But Brian just wanted to pass
> >> the
> >> exam with his gift. He never expected
> > anything from me. I was really upset
> >> about what was happened & thinking
> > about Brian s good heart. So, Brian
> >> requested only my pass of exam. I have
> > decided to pass my exam anyhow in
> >> 10th
> >> September 2007. I worked very
> > hardly & never slept some days. I used Brian
> >> s
> >> gift-rack sessions, COD
> > materials, etc .I
> >> have scheduled many racks (Actually I have scheduled one
> > in the LAB day
> >> morning as well). So I was doing my rack practice & study
> > without
> >> considering
> >> about any other thing. I haven t called to my friends,
> > family members &
> >> forgot
> >> many my personal life activities. But I went to
> > office in every week day
> >> as
> >> usual. When I got a free time then I started
> > to listen to IE COD. Finally
> >> I
> >> got sick because of the lack of sleep. I
> > got a dynamic toothache (Changing
> >> from one place to another place day by
> > day) & a painful skin rash. I haven
> >> t
> >> gone to meet a doctor (I have free
> > health insurance from company). I used
> >> detol for the tooth ache & decided
> > to take medicine after the exam. I have
> >> kept on study forgetting about the
> > pain.
> >>
> >> The day was 9th September 2007, I
> >> have traveled to Dubai. Stay in
> > the same hotel (Tulip Inn- Knowledge
> >> Village).
> >> I have entered the hotel
> > 11.00PM in the night. Slept till 5.00AM in the
> >> next
> >> day (Lab Day) morning.
> > After a wash I I have practiced 30 minutes with my
> >> scheduled IE rack. Then I
> > walked to the Cisco Building; Went to 3rd floor
> >> as
> >> usual. I was the first
> > one came to the place. So three of other candidates
> >> were there later. One of
> > Indian girl, also among the candidates. Procter
> >> (Yosuf) called us to come in
> > to the LAB 5 minutes earlier. He explained
> >> the
> >> next schedule. One
> > candidate came in to the LAB 30 mins later because his
> >> driver taken him a
> > ride. I have started the LAB as I planned earlier. Read
> >> all
> >> the LAB book &
> > drawn few diagrams. It has taken 30 mins for me. Suddenly I
> >> got
> >> something
> > like de-hydration in the LAB & I drunken water in many times.
> >> Also
> >> went
> > toilet many times. (May be side effects of my previous hard study).
> >> Procter
> > called for the lunch; I was just in my schedule. So we had good
> >> lunch
> >>
> > with procter s advice. Yosuf (Dubai Procter) is really nice gentlemen.
> >>
> > Because
> >> four of my attempts I have seen him handling candidates nicely.
> >>
> >>
> > So, after
> >> the lunch I have scored many points with fast typing. As I planned
> > final
> >> hour
> >> used for the testing. I used Brian s score sheet method. Based
> > on Brian s
> >> score sheet my score was 96. May be 100 because I have not
> > revised my
> >> answers
> >> when I come back. I knew that I have 16 marks buffer.
> >>
> >> After the exam I went
> >> to Dubai City centre & bought few items. I was
> > stuck there in the long
> >> taxi
> >> queue. Finally I was able catch my flight &
> > came back. I have logged into
> >> the
> >> site & found that my number & pass. I
> > was not able sleep & next day went
> >> to
> >> office as usual. I sent my first
> > email to Brian but he has not replied
> >> yet.
> >> May be he has not received my
> > email or he has blocked me because of so
> >> many
> >> emails sent by me.
> >>
> >> So
> > guys my advice is work hard & gets it with your
> >> effort. Don t wait till your
> > number comes to you. Just work hard & get it.
> >> I
> >> have taken four attempts &
> > I got four different LABS. So it has not
> >> repeated
> >> to me. So don t expect
> > it. Some people saying that it has happened to
> >> them;
> >> but it may be very
> > rare case. One person asked same question from Procter
> >> & he
> >> told that
> > there are many LABs. But sometimes they may repeat.
> >>
> >> I can only
> >>
> > recommend IE materials & Racks because I have passed with them & Brian
> > s
> >>
> > good
> >> hart. I have no words to thank Brian & IE. Thanks a million tims
> >> ..to Brian & IE.
> >>
> >> Believe me Brian is a really good hatred man!!!!!!!!!! He
> > is a really
> >> sensitive person. Brian my hat s off to you for nice preparing
> > material &
> >> support!
> >>
> >> Note: Guys, don t post any un-necessary emails to GS
> > or Brian by
> >> following me to get free IE products. I still feel bad about
> > what I have
> >> done
> >> even after I got my number. Actually I was in another
> > mentality &
> >> different
> >> world when I am posting that complain to GS. ( I can
> > say that was not me
> >> that
> >> was my dark side of the mind). Sorry guys!
> >>
> >>
> > Finally I must thank to GS;
> >> without GS I will never get anything for this
> > year.
> >>
> >> Thanks to all the GS
> >> members for the being here. I learnt a lot
> > from your discussions.
> >>
> >> Bye for
> >> now,
> >>
> >> PM
> >> CCIE # 18807
> >>
> >>
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