From: darth router (darklordrouter@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Sep 14 2007 - 13:52:16 ART
I was just messing with Peter and Scott.
I could not help myself. :)
On 9/14/07, Marc La Porte <marc.a.laporte@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Darth,
>
> Did you not just pass the lab exam? Leave the free stuff (if any should be
> given) to those still pursueing this certification. Then again, everyone
> needs to make a living. Why rob Scott or the Brian's of their hard earn
> pay so you could presumably get a quick fix on this certification? I don't
> see why. Free also means it's a gift (hence you don't ask, but merely
> receive)
>
> Just my 2c
>
> Marc
>
>
> On 9/14/07, darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I am not sure what any of you are talking about, but FREE keeps sticking
> > in
> > my mind. Scott, send me some FREE stuff brother! I read your history
> > about
> > you running that pirate BBS all those years. Why not flip back that old
> > mentality light swtich and send some sharing my way :)
> >
> > DR
> >
> > On 9/14/07, peter morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Scott,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I know what u r talking about. Actually I haven't use IPExpert study
> > > materials. So I can not tell anything about it. I just used IE
> > materials &
> > > their racks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > No background things as you guess. Do you mean Brian paid xxxxx amount
> > to
> > > tell my story??? Hehhh!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That is my real story. Previously I thought not to send this email to
> > GS
> > > because I assume that there are misunderstanding people. Even I was
> > having
> > > free stuff sometimes I may not able to pass if I haven't dedicated to
> > the
> > > task. So I will never give you a chance to let down my courage.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyway Thanks for the Congrats ..!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > PM
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Scott Morris < smorris@ipexpert.com>
> > > To: peter morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com>; darth router <
> > > darklordrouter@gmail.com>; ccie784 < ccie784@googlemail.com>
> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 3:59:11 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
> > >
> > > Heheheehh... I'm going to assume there were other things in the
> > > background.
> > > Complaining or talking loudly does not get anyone free materials!
> > > Otherwise, I would think everyone would just complain! The catch is
> > to
> > > target your audience and work something out!
> > >
> > > If you want free materials, provide a service to the vendors. Contact
> > the
> > > various sales folks and come up with some worthwhile business proposal
> >
> > > about
> > > testing/reviewing/updating their products during your studies. No
> > matter
> > > how good anything is, it can always use improvement and a different
> > > perspective. But it's important to make the vendor think they are
> > getting
> > > something out of it as well!
> > >
> > > No sense being naughty though! :)
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> > JNCIE
> > > #153, CISSP, et al.
> > > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > > VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> > > IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> > >
> > > A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
> > >
> > > smorris@ipexpert.com
> > >
> > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> > > Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> > > http://www.ipexpert.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> > > peter morgan
> > > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:36 AM
> > > To: darth router; ccie784
> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
> > >
> > > Thanks Darth!
> > >
> > > You r a real naughty boy!
> > >
> > > You r always looking at the back
> > > side of girls!
> > >
> > > Brian, Scott don"t give him anything free; because he is a naughty boy
> > > (Not
> > > like me)!
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: darth
> > > router <darklordrouter@gmail.com>
> > > To: ccie784 <ccie784@googlemail.com >
> > > Cc:
> > > peter morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com>; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Sent: Friday,
> > > September 14, 2007 2:16:39 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807) Grats man on the CCIE
> > man!
> > >
> > > So all we gotta do for free stuff is complain!
> > > Brian, I could use some free stuff! I will gladly complain!. Scott
> > Morris,
> > > could you please get on this bandwagon as well? I would like your
> > service
> > > provider workbook! :)
> > >
> > > DR
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/14/07, ccie784 <ccie784@googlemail.com >
> > > wrote:
> > > Congratulation !! Nice post. IE is great vendor, no doubt!!
> > >
> > > On
> > > 9/14/07, peter morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Guys,
> > > >
> > > > I was able
> > > to catch my fish in 10th September 2007. Got my green
> > > > number (18807) in my
> > > 4th attempt. I have never given up & keep on doing
> > > > the
> > > > exam. Here is my
> > > small story. It is like a fairy tail.
> > > >
> > > > I have passed my
> > > > first R&S Written
> > > in May 2004. Then it has expired after 18 months without
> > > > taking an attempt.
> > > Then I got a free Cisco partner voucher from my office
> > > > &
> > > > used it to get my
> > > written back in Feb 2006. I was keeping on study from
> > > > there
> > > > onwards & I
> > > was able to take few months of continuous leave from my office
> > > > for
> > > > the
> > > exam. But I was not in confidence to sit for the exam in 2006. I came
> > > > to
> > > >
> > > another country for a new job. I got lots of free time after I changed
> > my
> > > >
> > > job
> > > > & then started to study in a schedule.
> > > >
> > > > Finally I have decided to
> > > take & LAB
> > > > attempt in April 2007. It was a disaster for me. Also I was not
> > > able reach
> > > > the
> > > > LAB location in the correct time because the CAB driver was
> > > not able to
> > > > find
> > > > the place & he lost the way. I lost around 50mins in my
> > > first attempt. I
> > > > have
> > > > taken another attempt in May 2007 thinking that I
> > > failed because of short
> > > > of
> > > > time.
> > > >
> > > > For my 2nd attempt I have booked a
> > > hotel very close (Walking
> > > > Distance) to the LAB location. I went the LAB
> > > before 30mins earlier. But
> > > > it
> > > > was another disaster. Then I realized that I
> > > am lack of knowledge. Then I
> > > > have
> > > > stared to re-read many of books &
> > > bought one of famous vendors work book.
> > > > Previously I have been using their
> > > old work books which has download from
> > > > a
> > > > free site. Then after few months
> > > I went back to the LAB.
> > > >
> > > > My 3rd attempt
> > > > scheduled in Aug 2007. I booked
> > > same hotel & went early to the place. I
> > > > was
> > > > able to understand many of
> > > questions & was able to answer properly. But I
> > > > sucked in few occasions
> > > because of my mistakes & taken time to recover
> > > > from
> > > > them. After the LAB I
> > > got the same result (Failed).
> > > >
> > > > Then I came back &
> > > > written down all of my
> > > mistakes. I was able to identify my main weakness
> > > > as
> > > > the lack of hands on
> > > practice & not the knowledge. So I have decided to
> > > > buy
> > > > rack sessions from
> > > IE & I have booked racks in every day & week ends
> > > > double or
> > > > triple rack
> > > sessions. I have studied with less number of sleeping hours
> > > > (4-5
> > > > hours per
> > > day). Also I got another schedule for the LAB on 10th September
> > > > 2007. So I
> > > have studied very hardly without even taking proper sleep. I
> > > > think
> > > > your
> > > guys can remember one of my previous posts of IE rack support issue
> > > > . I
> > > >
> > > was not able to find the place to get support at that time from IE.
> > But
> > > >
> > > Brian
> > > > & his great IE staff guided me & cleared my issue. Then next day
> > > morning I
> > > > have realized that I have addressed the case not nicely &
> > > apologize from
> > > > Brian. Because I was in different mind set when I was doing
> > > my practice
> > > > labs.
> > > > Then Brian sent me & email with telling that he has
> > > decided to stop
> > > > posting to
> > > > GS because of the
> > > > threats of people like me.
> > > I got really upset because I knew that there
> > > > are
> > > > many candidates in GS
> > > like me who are expecting support from people like
> > > > Brian, Scott & other
> > > senior CCIEs. So I begged him & apologize from him
> > > > with
> > > > many emails.
> > > Finally he accepted my apology. By the time Brian asked me to
> > > > provide
> > > details of the products which I have bought from IE. Because he
> > > > was
> > > >
> > > thinking to provide more support via his sales team. Actually I haven
> > t
> > > >
> > > bought
> > > > any of products from IE & I was using one of my friend s old IE
> > > materials.
> > > > But
> > > > anyway I was thinking to buy their COD within few days
> > > because many people
> > > > recommended it. Then I have sent few package selections
> > > which I am
> > > > expecting
> > > > to buy from IE, expecting a good discount. But in a
> > > nice morning I checked
> > > > my
> > > > mail box & found an email from Brian. He has
> > > given access to IE WB VOL I,
> > > > VOL
> > > > II, VOL III, and Advanced Technology COD
> > > & also Online Boot Camp. Brian
> > > > has
> > > > gone ahead & given me the access to
> > > above
> > > > materials free of charge. Also he has doubled my rack sessions by
> > his
> > > > sales team. Also he asked me that, if I want more products then to
> > > > update
> > > him. I
> > > > was
> > > > not able to believe this & get upset about what I have done by
> > > sending
> > > > email
> > > > to GS complaining their rack support. I told Brian that I
> > > will do
> > > > anything to
> > > > recover the damage which I was trying to do by posting
> > > it un-necessarily
> > > > to GS
> > > > (They have great/quick support option in IE member
> > > area named as ticketing
> > > > system. I was not aware about the option
> > > previously. They provide support
> > > > within few minutes when you get an error).
> > > But Brian just wanted to pass
> > > > the
> > > > exam with his gift. He never expected
> > > anything from me. I was really upset
> > > > about what was happened & thinking
> > > about Brian s good heart. So, Brian
> > > > requested only my pass of exam. I have
> > > decided to pass my exam anyhow in
> > > > 10th
> > > > September 2007. I worked very
> > > hardly & never slept some days. I used Brian
> > > > s
> > > > gift-rack sessions, COD
> > > materials, etc .I
> > > > have scheduled many racks (Actually I have scheduled one
> > > in the LAB day
> > > > morning as well). So I was doing my rack practice & study
> > > without
> > > > considering
> > > > about any other thing. I haven t called to my friends,
> > > family members &
> > > > forgot
> > > > many my personal life activities. But I went to
> > > office in every week day
> > > > as
> > > > usual. When I got a free time then I started
> > > to listen to IE COD. Finally
> > > > I
> > > > got sick because of the lack of sleep. I
> > > got a dynamic toothache (Changing
> > > > from one place to another place day by
> > > day) & a painful skin rash. I haven
> > > > t
> > > > gone to meet a doctor (I have free
> > > health insurance from company). I used
> > > > detol for the tooth ache & decided
> > > to take medicine after the exam. I have
> > > > kept on study forgetting about the
> > > pain.
> > > >
> > > > The day was 9th September 2007, I
> > > > have traveled to Dubai. Stay in
> > > the same hotel (Tulip Inn- Knowledge
> > > > Village).
> > > > I have entered the hotel
> > > 11.00PM in the night. Slept till 5.00AM in the
> > > > next
> > > > day (Lab Day) morning.
> > > After a wash I I have practiced 30 minutes with my
> > > > scheduled IE rack. Then I
> > > walked to the Cisco Building; Went to 3rd floor
> > > > as
> > > > usual. I was the first
> > > one came to the place. So three of other candidates
> > > > were there later. One of
> > > Indian girl, also among the candidates. Procter
> > > > (Yosuf) called us to come in
> > > to the LAB 5 minutes earlier. He explained
> > > > the
> > > > next schedule. One
> > > candidate came in to the LAB 30 mins later because his
> > > > driver taken him a
> > > ride. I have started the LAB as I planned earlier. Read
> > > > all
> > > > the LAB book &
> > > drawn few diagrams. It has taken 30 mins for me. Suddenly I
> > > > got
> > > > something
> > > like de-hydration in the LAB & I drunken water in many times.
> > > > Also
> > > > went
> > > toilet many times. (May be side effects of my previous hard study).
> > > > Procter
> > > called for the lunch; I was just in my schedule. So we had good
> > > > lunch
> > > >
> > > with procter s advice. Yosuf (Dubai Procter) is really nice gentlemen.
> > > >
> > > Because
> > > > four of my attempts I have seen him handling candidates nicely.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > So, after
> > > > the lunch I have scored many points with fast typing. As I planned
> > > final
> > > > hour
> > > > used for the testing. I used Brian s score sheet method. Based
> > > on Brian s
> > > > score sheet my score was 96. May be 100 because I have not
> > > revised my
> > > > answers
> > > > when I come back. I knew that I have 16 marks buffer.
> > > >
> > > > After the exam I went
> > > > to Dubai City centre & bought few items. I was
> > > stuck there in the long
> > > > taxi
> > > > queue. Finally I was able catch my flight &
> > > came back. I have logged into
> > > > the
> > > > site & found that my number & pass. I
> > > was not able sleep & next day went
> > > > to
> > > > office as usual. I sent my first
> > > email to Brian but he has not replied
> > > > yet.
> > > > May be he has not received my
> > > email or he has blocked me because of so
> > > > many
> > > > emails sent by me.
> > > >
> > > > So
> > > guys my advice is work hard & gets it with your
> > > > effort. Don t wait till your
> > > number comes to you. Just work hard & get it.
> > > > I
> > > > have taken four attempts &
> > > I got four different LABS. So it has not
> > > > repeated
> > > > to me. So don t expect
> > > it. Some people saying that it has happened to
> > > > them;
> > > > but it may be very
> > > rare case. One person asked same question from Procter
> > > > & he
> > > > told that
> > > there are many LABs. But sometimes they may repeat.
> > > >
> > > > I can only
> > > >
> > > recommend IE materials & Racks because I have passed with them & Brian
> > s
> > > >
> > > good
> > > > hart. I have no words to thank Brian & IE. Thanks a million
> > tims ..to
> > > > Brian & IE.
> > > >
> > > > Believe me Brian is a really good hatred man!!!!!!!!!! He
> > > is a really
> > > > sensitive person. Brian my hat s off to you for nice preparing
> > > material &
> > > > support!
> > > >
> > > > Note: Guys, don t post any un-necessary emails to GS
> > > or Brian by
> > > > following me to get free IE products. I still feel bad about
> > > what I have
> > > > done
> > > > even after I got my number. Actually I was in another
> > > mentality &
> > > > different
> > > > world when I am posting that complain to GS. ( I can
> > > say that was not me
> > > > that
> > > > was my dark side of the mind). Sorry guys!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Finally I must thank to GS;
> > > > without GS I will never get anything for this
> > > year.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to all the GS
> > > > members for the being here. I learnt a lot
> > > from your discussions.
> > > >
> > > > Bye for
> > > > now,
> > > >
> > > > PM
> > > > CCIE # 18807
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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