From: Scott Morris (smorris@ipexpert.com)
Date: Fri Sep 14 2007 - 12:39:21 ART
Rent is cheap? And you live in New York? Must be a rent control, or a
coop, or living with someone. On the other hand other places get more bang
for their buck in terms of cost to living arrangements. But that's beside
the point.
The $80 a month in metro card is good, likely an offset to anyone else's gas
money for transportation... Depends on what you have and what you are
looking for. But it's all part of the equation.
I can tell you that if I were to look at moving to New York with the family
in tow, and looking for a decently sized place in a good neighborhood for
families the cost would be significantly higher than where I'm at right now
for something not even close to what I have. Same holds true for CA or many
other places.
And the cities mentioned were international. They pay more taxes than we in
the US do, so keep the complaint/observation in context. :)
Move to Connecticut, Nevada, Texas or Florida. They have no state income
tax, so you get a 10% raise. :)
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Joseph Brunner
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 9:36 AM
To: swm@emanon.com; 'darth router'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: Service Provider jobs vs Enterprise
People always try to throw that out there Scott, "well you pay so much more
taxes"... 80% of our taxes are FEDERAL and that means if you live in
Busterville, AL, you are still on the hook for the same taxes as me living
in Manhattan... That being said, NY State/City Tax is 10% on under 200k. So
do you think I can earn more than 10% here than elsewhere?
Count on it.
And my rent is less than most anyone's mortgage around the country.
Considering I have $80 a month in transportation costs (metrocard). I'm not
buying gas and no car payment/insurance. So I recommend to anyone who wants
to make big $$$$ and live pretty cheap- try the big city. I have a 5 or 6 to
1 earning to expense ratio.
-Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm@emanon.com]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 9:02 AM
To: 'Joseph Brunner'; 'darth router'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: Service Provider jobs vs Enterprise
Where you increase your tax basis and severly increase your cost of living
so that your take-home/disposable income is less? :)
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Joseph Brunner
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 8:13 AM
To: 'darth router'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: Service Provider jobs vs Enterprise
Where are you located? 100k? We have help desk staff that make that!
Are you kidding? The CCIE is worth about 170k plus 30% bonus...
Move to a major city (NYC, LONDON, BERLIN)
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
darth router
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:31 AM
To: Cisco certification
Subject: Service Provider jobs vs Enterprise
Hey guys,
I have worked at a small ISP (about 20k customers). I was not payed all that
well. Now I have a CCIE, and am wondering do the service provider jobs pay
vs the Enterprise jobs? I would love to get around 100k, and not have to
travel. It seems that the majory of CCIE jobs I see on the various jobs
sites all pay around 100k, some more some a little less. The CCIE gets you
treated pretty well if you work for a cisco reseller. Can anyone tell me the
pros and cons to working for a service provider with a CCIE? Are there still
a lot of service providers that even want CCIEs? from the very limited view
I have on service providers it seems like many are moving away from cisco
gear in favor of other vendors. I would love some advice here. I just got my
CCIE and I feel like I am just starting to finally get somewhere in my
career. I want my next job to the the right job, and a job I want to stick
with for some years.
DR
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