Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)

From: darth router (darklordrouter@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Sep 14 2007 - 12:14:11 ART


I am not sure what any of you are talking about, but FREE keeps sticking in
my mind. Scott, send me some FREE stuff brother! I read your history about
you running that pirate BBS all those years. Why not flip back that old
mentality light swtich and send some sharing my way :)

DR

On 9/14/07, peter morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Scott,
>
>
>
> I know what u r talking about. Actually I haven't use IPExpert study
> materials. So I can not tell anything about it. I just used IE materials &
> their racks.
>
>
>
> No background things as you guess. Do you mean Brian paid xxxxx amount to
> tell my story??? Hehhh!!!
>
>
>
> That is my real story. Previously I thought not to send this email to GS
> because I assume that there are misunderstanding people. Even I was having
> free stuff sometimes I may not able to pass if I haven't dedicated to the
> task. So I will never give you a chance to let down my courage.
>
>
>
> Anyway Thanks for the Congrats..!!!
>
>
>
> PM
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com>
> To: peter morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com>; darth router <
> darklordrouter@gmail.com>; ccie784 <ccie784@googlemail.com>
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 3:59:11 PM
> Subject: RE: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
>
> Heheheehh... I'm going to assume there were other things in the
> background.
> Complaining or talking loudly does not get anyone free materials!
> Otherwise, I would think everyone would just complain! The catch is to
> target your audience and work something out!
>
> If you want free materials, provide a service to the vendors. Contact the
> various sales folks and come up with some worthwhile business proposal
> about
> testing/reviewing/updating their products during your studies. No matter
> how good anything is, it can always use improvement and a different
> perspective. But it's important to make the vendor think they are getting
> something out of it as well!
>
> No sense being naughty though! :)
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE
> #153, CISSP, et al.
> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
>
> A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
>
> smorris@ipexpert.com
>
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> http://www.ipexpert.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> peter morgan
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:36 AM
> To: darth router; ccie784
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807)
>
> Thanks Darth!
>
> You r a real naughty boy!
>
> You r always looking at the back
> side of girls!
>
> Brian, Scott don"t give him anything free; because he is a naughty boy
> (Not
> like me)!
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: darth
> router <darklordrouter@gmail.com>
> To: ccie784 <ccie784@googlemail.com>
> Cc:
> peter morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com>; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Sent: Friday,
> September 14, 2007 2:16:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Tough Achievement (CCIE # 18807) Grats man on the CCIE man!
>
> So all we gotta do for free stuff is complain!
> Brian, I could use some free stuff! I will gladly complain!. Scott Morris,
> could you please get on this bandwagon as well? I would like your service
> provider workbook! :)
>
> DR
>
>
> On 9/14/07, ccie784 <ccie784@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> Congratulation !! Nice post. IE is great vendor, no doubt!!
>
> On
> 9/14/07, peter morgan <cciemaha@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > I was able
> to catch my fish in 10th September 2007. Got my green
> > number (18807) in my
> 4th attempt. I have never given up & keep on doing
> > the
> > exam. Here is my
> small story. It is like a fairy tail.
> >
> > I have passed my
> > first R&S Written
> in May 2004. Then it has expired after 18 months without
> > taking an attempt.
> Then I got a free Cisco partner voucher from my office
> > &
> > used it to get my
> written back in Feb 2006. I was keeping on study from
> > there
> > onwards & I
> was able to take few months of continuous leave from my office
> > for
> > the
> exam. But I was not in confidence to sit for the exam in 2006. I came
> > to
> >
> another country for a new job. I got lots of free time after I changed my
> >
> job
> > & then started to study in a schedule.
> >
> > Finally I have decided to
> take & LAB
> > attempt in April 2007. It was a disaster for me. Also I was not
> able reach
> > the
> > LAB location in the correct time because the CAB driver was
> not able to
> > find
> > the place & he lost the way. I lost around 50mins in my
> first attempt. I
> > have
> > taken another attempt in May 2007 thinking that I
> failed because of short
> > of
> > time.
> >
> > For my 2nd attempt I have booked a
> hotel very close (Walking
> > Distance) to the LAB location. I went the LAB
> before 30mins earlier. But
> > it
> > was another disaster. Then I realized that I
> am lack of knowledge. Then I
> > have
> > stared to re-read many of books &
> bought one of famous vendors work book.
> > Previously I have been using their
> old work books which has download from
> > a
> > free site. Then after few months
> I went back to the LAB.
> >
> > My 3rd attempt
> > scheduled in Aug 2007. I booked
> same hotel & went early to the place. I
> > was
> > able to understand many of
> questions & was able to answer properly. But I
> > sucked in few occasions
> because of my mistakes & taken time to recover
> > from
> > them. After the LAB I
> got the same result (Failed).
> >
> > Then I came back &
> > written down all of my
> mistakes. I was able to identify my main weakness
> > as
> > the lack of hands on
> practice & not the knowledge. So I have decided to
> > buy
> > rack sessions from
> IE & I have booked racks in every day & week ends
> > double or
> > triple rack
> sessions. I have studied with less number of sleeping hours
> > (4-5
> > hours per
> day). Also I got another schedule for the LAB on 10th September
> > 2007. So I
> have studied very hardly without even taking proper sleep. I
> > think
> > your
> guys can remember one of my previous posts of IE rack support issue
> > . I
> >
> was not able to find the place to get support at that time from IE. But
> >
> Brian
> > & his great IE staff guided me & cleared my issue. Then next day
> morning I
> > have realized that I have addressed the case not nicely &
> apologize from
> > Brian. Because I was in different mind set when I was doing
> my practice
> > labs.
> > Then Brian sent me & email with telling that he has
> decided to stop
> > posting to
> > GS because of the
> > threats of people like me.
> I got really upset because I knew that there
> > are
> > many candidates in GS
> like me who are expecting support from people like
> > Brian, Scott & other
> senior CCIEs. So I begged him & apologize from him
> > with
> > many emails.
> Finally he accepted my apology. By the time Brian asked me to
> > provide
> details of the products which I have bought from IE. Because he
> > was
> >
> thinking to provide more support via his sales team. Actually I haven t
> >
> bought
> > any of products from IE & I was using one of my friend s old IE
> materials.
> > But
> > anyway I was thinking to buy their COD within few days
> because many people
> > recommended it. Then I have sent few package selections
> which I am
> > expecting
> > to buy from IE, expecting a good discount. But in a
> nice morning I checked
> > my
> > mail box & found an email from Brian. He has
> given access to IE WB VOL I,
> > VOL
> > II, VOL III, and Advanced Technology COD
> & also Online Boot Camp. Brian
> > has
> > gone ahead & given me the access to
> above
> > materials free of charge. Also he has doubled my rack sessions by his
> > sales team. Also he asked me that, if I want more products then to
> > update
> him. I
> > was
> > not able to believe this & get upset about what I have done by
> sending
> > email
> > to GS complaining their rack support. I told Brian that I
> will do
> > anything to
> > recover the damage which I was trying to do by posting
> it un-necessarily
> > to GS
> > (They have great/quick support option in IE member
> area named as ticketing
> > system. I was not aware about the option
> previously. They provide support
> > within few minutes when you get an error).
> But Brian just wanted to pass
> > the
> > exam with his gift. He never expected
> anything from me. I was really upset
> > about what was happened & thinking
> about Brian s good heart. So, Brian
> > requested only my pass of exam. I have
> decided to pass my exam anyhow in
> > 10th
> > September 2007. I worked very
> hardly & never slept some days. I used Brian
> > s
> > gift-rack sessions, COD
> materials, etc .I
> > have scheduled many racks (Actually I have scheduled one
> in the LAB day
> > morning as well). So I was doing my rack practice & study
> without
> > considering
> > about any other thing. I haven t called to my friends,
> family members &
> > forgot
> > many my personal life activities. But I went to
> office in every week day
> > as
> > usual. When I got a free time then I started
> to listen to IE COD. Finally
> > I
> > got sick because of the lack of sleep. I
> got a dynamic toothache (Changing
> > from one place to another place day by
> day) & a painful skin rash. I haven
> > t
> > gone to meet a doctor (I have free
> health insurance from company). I used
> > detol for the tooth ache & decided
> to take medicine after the exam. I have
> > kept on study forgetting about the
> pain.
> >
> > The day was 9th September 2007, I
> > have traveled to Dubai. Stay in
> the same hotel (Tulip Inn- Knowledge
> > Village).
> > I have entered the hotel
> 11.00PM in the night. Slept till 5.00AM in the
> > next
> > day (Lab Day) morning.
> After a wash I I have practiced 30 minutes with my
> > scheduled IE rack. Then I
> walked to the Cisco Building; Went to 3rd floor
> > as
> > usual. I was the first
> one came to the place. So three of other candidates
> > were there later. One of
> Indian girl, also among the candidates. Procter
> > (Yosuf) called us to come in
> to the LAB 5 minutes earlier. He explained
> > the
> > next schedule. One
> candidate came in to the LAB 30 mins later because his
> > driver taken him a
> ride. I have started the LAB as I planned earlier. Read
> > all
> > the LAB book &
> drawn few diagrams. It has taken 30 mins for me. Suddenly I
> > got
> > something
> like de-hydration in the LAB & I drunken water in many times.
> > Also
> > went
> toilet many times. (May be side effects of my previous hard study).
> > Procter
> called for the lunch; I was just in my schedule. So we had good
> > lunch
> >
> with procter s advice. Yosuf (Dubai Procter) is really nice gentlemen.
> >
> Because
> > four of my attempts I have seen him handling candidates nicely.
> >
> >
> So, after
> > the lunch I have scored many points with fast typing. As I planned
> final
> > hour
> > used for the testing. I used Brian s score sheet method. Based
> on Brian s
> > score sheet my score was 96. May be 100 because I have not
> revised my
> > answers
> > when I come back. I knew that I have 16 marks buffer.
> >
> > After the exam I went
> > to Dubai City centre & bought few items. I was
> stuck there in the long
> > taxi
> > queue. Finally I was able catch my flight &
> came back. I have logged into
> > the
> > site & found that my number & pass. I
> was not able sleep & next day went
> > to
> > office as usual. I sent my first
> email to Brian but he has not replied
> > yet.
> > May be he has not received my
> email or he has blocked me because of so
> > many
> > emails sent by me.
> >
> > So
> guys my advice is work hard & gets it with your
> > effort. Don t wait till your
> number comes to you. Just work hard & get it.
> > I
> > have taken four attempts &
> I got four different LABS. So it has not
> > repeated
> > to me. So don t expect
> it. Some people saying that it has happened to
> > them;
> > but it may be very
> rare case. One person asked same question from Procter
> > & he
> > told that
> there are many LABs. But sometimes they may repeat.
> >
> > I can only
> >
> recommend IE materials & Racks because I have passed with them & Brian s
> >
> good
> > hart. I have no words to thank Brian & IE. Thanks a million tims ..to
> > Brian & IE.
> >
> > Believe me Brian is a really good hatred man!!!!!!!!!! He
> is a really
> > sensitive person. Brian my hat s off to you for nice preparing
> material &
> > support!
> >
> > Note: Guys, don t post any un-necessary emails to GS
> or Brian by
> > following me to get free IE products. I still feel bad about
> what I have
> > done
> > even after I got my number. Actually I was in another
> mentality &
> > different
> > world when I am posting that complain to GS. ( I can
> say that was not me
> > that
> > was my dark side of the mind). Sorry guys!
> >
> >
> Finally I must thank to GS;
> > without GS I will never get anything for this
> year.
> >
> > Thanks to all the GS
> > members for the being here. I learnt a lot
> from your discussions.
> >
> > Bye for
> > now,
> >
> > PM
> > CCIE # 18807
> >
> >
>
>



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