From: Joseph Brunner (joe@affirmedsystems.com)
Date: Fri Sep 14 2007 - 11:31:00 ART
Living on the cheap is not important... you need to think like a rich
person, not like a poor person.
The only thing that matters is your earnings to expense ratio. I would move
to Hong Kong and live in the Regent hotel at $1000 per night, if I could
command $500 USD per hour consulting.
The money is definitely out there. Keep looking.
Darth, maybe its time for you to work for yourself...
Surely someone values your experience, insight, and hard work!
-Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
darth router
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 9:16 AM
To: Anekwe, Abdul
Cc: Joseph Brunner; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: Service Provider jobs vs Enterprise
Do you guys figure that the salaries are much bigger in say New York,
because people cant work at 100k with the high cost of living? Even Seattle
has a fairly high cost of living now adays. I think 100k, or even less may
be the standard in Seatte/Portland areas. It is unforntunate in that CCIEs
were probably making over 100k in the 90s in those areas, and the cost of
living has sky rocketed since, but not the salaries to go along with it.
Maybe i need to move to TX where I can live on the cheap.
DR
On 9/14/07, Anekwe, Abdul <Abdul.Anekwe@sig.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I was in Seattle. And I worked for a carrier while I was out there. The
> salaries are far less than California and Northeast. And being that I
> was originally from NJ (worked in NY-financial for years) before I went
> out there, a lot of people knew that they couldn't compete with salaries
> and competitive hourly rates I was used to. So ...if you're in Seattle,
> temper your salary expectation. It will be lower. Consulting pays more,
> but don't expect to get top dollar from the big employers out there. It
> will be lower then equivalent positions in California or out here in the
> North East.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Joseph Brunner
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 8:27 AM
> To: 'darth router'
> Cc: 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: RE: Service Provider jobs vs Enterprise
>
> With an R/S skill set you should be lead architect at a financial
> company's
> network. You stand to make a large bonus as well as privileges I enjoyed
> (Friday's off in the summer, etc). Forget working for an ISP. They just
> don't pay well enough. Look for a job at a hedge fund management firm,
> private equity group, etc.
>
>
>
> Are you near Seattle? How's the job market there?
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> _____
>
> From: darth router [mailto:darklordrouter@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 8:27 AM
> To: Joseph Brunner
> Cc: Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: Service Provider jobs vs Enterprise
>
>
>
> Deeeeeeeeng Son,
>
> I am from the northwest. I know a guy making 120k with bonus, but I
> think
> that is a lot for the area. He does ip Tel and works for a reseller. You
> talking shop jobs, or resellers? I have a R/S skillset.
>
> On 9/14/07, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
>
> Where are you located? 100k? We have help desk staff that make that!
>
> Are you kidding? The CCIE is worth about 170k plus 30% bonus...
>
> Move to a major city (NYC, LONDON, BERLIN)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> darth router
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:31 AM
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: Service Provider jobs vs Enterprise
>
> Hey guys,
>
> I have worked at a small ISP (about 20k customers). I was not payed all
> that
> well. Now I have a CCIE, and am wondering do the service provider jobs
> pay
> vs the Enterprise jobs? I would love to get around 100k, and not have to
> travel. It seems that the majory of CCIE jobs I see on the various jobs
> sites all pay around 100k, some more some a little less. The CCIE gets
> you
> treated pretty well if you work for a cisco reseller. Can anyone tell me
> the
> pros and cons to working for a service provider with a CCIE? Are there
> still
> a lot of service providers that even want CCIEs? from the very limited
> view
> I have on service providers it seems like many are moving away from
> cisco
> gear in favor of other vendors. I would love some advice here. I just
> got my
> CCIE and I feel like I am just starting to finally get somewhere in my
> career. I want my next job to the the right job, and a job I want to
> stick
> with for some years.
>
>
> DR
>
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