From: Scott Morris (smorris@ipexpert.com)
Date: Fri Sep 07 2007 - 10:33:56 ART
Or like most things, knowing and being able to comment are also two
distinctly different possibilities... :)
The RFP has nothing to do with the lab exam and one does not control the
other, so that won't influence things (entirely different political
structure).
As for your ideas of changes, I thought we all debated the 6500 before and
found no value add to bringing it into the R&S exam. It offers no
new/exciting technology to test with and would just be an expensive switch
to add in.
For voice, I agree about moving to 6.x but it hasn't been field tested long
enough to do that. As for MPE, are you insane? They have a hard enough
time working within an 8 hour timeframe when developing the labs!
For security I'll agree with you on the VPN Concentrator. But for the IPS,
does it make a difference whether it's in the ASA or a separate box? Other
than the "cool" factor of being an ASA module there's no value add to do
that. I'm surprised you didn't want to stick a 6500 here with the VPNSM.
:)
MARS still has some issues to work out and again would be an expensive
addition for very little value-add. The ISR's WOULD make perfect sense
though.
As for wireless, there's already been a written exam AFAIK. I was hoping
there would be an announcement at Networkers about a lab exam, but nothing
came. *sigh* Maybe next year. :)
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Brad
Ellis
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 1:09 AM
To: Greg Wendel
Cc: Colin McNamara; Marc La Porte; Colby Reed; Cisco certification
Subject: RE: R&S Lab Changes per 01/01/2008?
No, I haven't heard anything other than some conversations that were had
during networkers (but nothing that is/was confirmed). So for now, it's all
hearsay. From one angle, I'd expect some type of announcement of changes
within the next few months. From another perspective, there is a certain RFP
in the works that might cause the lab exam to stay consistent for a
while...we'll just have to see. Personally, I'd like to see the following
happen:
R&S - add a 6500 switch for a core switch. Pull the 3550s. Add MPLS for the
core and get ride of FR.
Voice - Go straight to UC 6.0. skip 5.x. Add MPE (meeting place express)
Security - Go with all ISR routers (remove the old 2600s). Yank the
VPN3005 and IPS4235. Stick an IPS module in the ASAs. Add clean access and
MARS.
Wireless needs to go somewhere...rumor mill had it for the R&S lab exam, but
with some internal changes at Cisco, I've heard it might be it's own CCIE.
My $.02
thanks,
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From: Greg Wendel [mailto:gwendel@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 4:21 AM
To: Brad Ellis
Cc: Colin McNamara; Marc La Porte; Colby Reed; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: R&S Lab Changes per 01/01/2008?
Brad,
Are you writing the above as an educated guess or as a veiled reference to
some inside information?
We know you have some good sources. Forgive me if this question is out of
bounds.
Thanks,
On 9/6/07, Brad Ellis <brad@ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
Considering it's been added to the written and seems to be the "weapon of
choice" in the industry, I would think MPLS on the R&S lab exam could
definitely be a possibility.
thanks,
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CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto: nobody@groupstudy.com
<mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com> ] On Behalf Of Colin McNamara
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:13 PM
To: Narbik Kocharians
Cc: Marc La Porte; Colby Reed; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: R&S Lab Changes per 01/01/2008?
Importance: Low
If you follow Cisco's definition of Enterprise vs Commercial, then MPLS is
most definitely showing up in the enterprise. It is clearly defined in the
NGN SRND's (next generation networks) and referenced in Cisco press
literature.
I have personally been seeing it used to address specific business needs in
the enterprise space (fortune 1000) lately. I have not seen it much in the
commercial space (@500 employees). In that space it is more likely to see
techniques such as vrf-lite, or layer 2 virtualization used to address these
needs.
-- Colin McNamara (858)208-8105 CCIE #18233 "The difficult we do immediately, the impossible just takes a little longer"On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 14:38 -0700, Narbik Kocharians wrote: > Well that's why i am saying that even though i agree with Brian, MPLS can be > considered to be Enterprise.. > > On 9/6/07, Marc La Porte <marc.a.laporte@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Did you guys see this from Himawan's (triple CCIE) blog? > > > > http://brokenpipes.blogspot.com/2006_06_01_archive.html > > http://brokenpipes.blogspot.com/2006_05_01_archive.html > > > > Marc > > > > > > On 9/6/07, Colby Reed <mighty.penguin@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I agree with you guys too and don't want an email war either, but IMHO, > > I > > > believe MPLS is moving towards the enterprise, so it may show up on the > > R&S > > > in the next couple of years. > > > > > > There is a video on Cisco.com <http://cisco.com/> that details how Rice > > > University just rolled out the first MPLS campus network, and we are > > > following their lead by rolling it out next year. > > > > > > I know of several other institutions that are doing the same with their > > > campus, so look for this to be a hot upcoming topic in the enterprise. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Colby > > > > > > On 9/6/07, Narbik Kocharians < narbikk@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I totally agree with Brian, but you could have your own MPLS cloud. I > > do > > > > not > > > > want to disagree with Brian and start an e-mail war, but the chances > > are > > > > there. > > > > > > > > On 9/6/07, Brian McGahan < bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I doubt that MPLS would be added to the R&S exam. R&S has > > > > > traditionally been an Enterprise exam, and MPLS is not an Enterprise > > > > > technology. Besides from the customer's perspective they could have > > > > an > > > > > interface running Frame Relay and then in the provider cloud it > > could > > > > be > > > > > tunneled over MPLS. This is why MPLS is reserved for the SP track, > > as > > > > > it's > > > > > transparent to the Enterprise customer. > > > > > > > > > > Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/Security) > > > > > bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com > > > > > > > > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc. > > > > > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com < > > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/> > > > > > Toll Free: 877-224-8987 x 705 > > > > > Outside US: 775-826-4344 x 705 > > > > > 24/7 Support: http://forum.internetworkexpert.com > > > > > Live Chat: http://www.internetworkexpert.com/chat/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On > > Behalf > > > > Of > > > > > > Marc La Porte > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:52 AM > > > > > > To: Cisco certification > > > > > > Subject: R&S Lab Changes per 01/01/2008? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey guys, > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone heard if there's going to be any R&S lab blueprint changes > > > > per > > > > > > 01/01/2008? > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm thinking of things like: > > > > > > - no more 3550s > > > > > > - mpls instead of frame relay > > > > > > - etc > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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