From: Gary Duncanson (gary.duncanson@googlemail.com)
Date: Wed Sep 05 2007 - 19:27:26 ART
I still think the CCIE will prove to be much harder to obtain from a
learning perspective. The MCA (so far as I can see) is kind of a rubber
stamp for those with MS architect experience who up to now have had no cert
to validate it.
I wonder how MS centric it will be? In the world of infrastructure
architecture it does not pay to be too locked in to any one vendor. The
network consultant I worked with in 1999 viewed MS products as individually
inferior to alternatives, but in the setting of our shop, MS used
collectively was better than using different things. He didn't do the MCSE
because it wasn't 'real world' and tested you on pants features like
software RAID.
Had the MCA been around back then, I think he would have passed it up anyway
as he wouldn't have had the time to do it.
Many people who have the MCSE have gone on to do the kind of thing the MCA
program is supposed to accredit for a number of years now. The hardest part
may be selling yourself into the program.
It will be interesting to see some feedback from MCA candidates. I looked
into this myself earlier in the year but I understand no more applications
are being accepted at present.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 9:28 PM
Subject: CCIE vs MCA
> Sure you could call them apples and oranges, (or even cauliflowers and
> cantaloupes), but if you think failing the CCIE lab a few times is harsh.
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> Check out Microsoft's MCA requirements.
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> MCA : infrastructure
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> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/architect/archprocess/default.mspx
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> MCA : messaging architect
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> Candidates for the program must meet rigorous prerequisites. This ensures
> that individuals who have been accepted already possess many of the unique
> skills that are necessary to be effective. Years of experience working
> with
> Exchange are required, in addition to passing a lab-based entrance exam.
> During the rigorous training (four weeks, six days a week, 12 hours a
> day),
> several other tests are administered.
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> If two of these tests are not passed, candidates are prohibited from
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> the final qualification exam-they will not become Certified Messaging
> Architects.
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> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/architect/messaging/default.mspx
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> I first thought this was an april fool's type joke. but it's real.
> Microsoft
> is making up for years of being a joke with their MCSE who can't set up a
> dhcp scope, etc.
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