Re: Virtual CCIE's?

From: Allen Ngo (allen1994@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Aug 21 2007 - 16:09:53 ART


How true!

On 8/21/07, ROBERT LEUGERS <RLeugers@familydollar.com> wrote:
>
> I don't believe there are virtual CCIEs. You either pass the test or
> don't. It doesn't matter how you learned the material.
>
> My opinion as a former hiring manager (I led a team of 7 senior network
> engineers in my Fortune 500 company) and still as an IT Architect
> involved in hiring people is that:
>
> 1) A CCIE certification can help get you an interview. But I would
> also look at CCNPs with good, relevant experience. No certification
> alone gets you the job. Any technical college degree coupled with the
> above will guarantee you a phone call from me at least.
> 2) CCIE/NP does not mean you automatically get the position because you
> must show you retained relevant parts of your knowledge, have some clue
> as to how that knowledge relates to the real world and also some idea of
> standard network architectures and design methodology.
> 3) The network is core to many businesses and you must realize that it
> is so. An interest in how applications work on -- and associates
> expect to use the network is very important to the success of the
> candidate in a senior position.
> 4) Show that you are able to operate in a leadership role within the
> team since engineers at this level will represent me and my organization
> for projects and at meetings and conferences with little or no input
> from me. You must also be able to be a contributing team member. If
> you are working in a senior position, then you need to let me know what
> is needed in your area of responsibility, not always the other way
> around.
> 5) I also like to see continued effort to expand your expertise.
> 6) Some ability to effectively communicate both written and verbal.
>
> I think that if you understand how the virtual products differ from a
> real live router you are not taking advantage of an almost free
> capability which can reduce the cost of your CCIE or even your
> production and testing lab. I have not only used Dynamips in a pinch
> for CCIE studies, but also to demonstrate and understand how new
> features work without the time and effort needed to cable yet another
> lab scenario.
>
> Rob Leugers
>
>
>
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