From: Joseph Brunner (joe@affirmedsystems.com)
Date: Fri Aug 17 2007 - 20:44:44 ART
I can imagine a CCIE in NYC pulling down $500,000 a year with a nice
SAN/VOICE practice. You would need to bill $250 an hour and have a full
calendar, great contacts, maybe an assistant to help you out...
They could even make a lot more, if they had a staff, and charged per
project. Companies here pay $300 to $350 an hour for implementations and
roll-outs. If you call any large software firm, and purchase installation,
that is the going rate for a "solutions architect" or "Solutions integration
specialist". I think Cisco, the backbone of their organization's IT
infrastructure is just as important.
What if you just rolled out "Greenfield" deployments of CCM, Unity, and
SAN's all year long?
You could make more than that...
Gents, do you know what "KVS" is (now owned by Veritas). Its $15,000 to
$60,000 for installation by partners and that takes 2 to 6 days.
Get crakin'
LOL!
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Larry Letterman (lletterm)
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:19 PM
To: Scott Vermillion; Narbik Kocharians
Cc: Craig Tompkins; Joseph Brunner; Andrew Shin; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Contract Position in Los Angeles area
Joe,
at least in CO and TX they can afford to have a nice house on that
money...lets start an off topic on this issue.. :)
________________________________
From: Scott Vermillion [mailto:scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com]
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 6:10 PM
To: Narbik Kocharians
Cc: Craig Tompkins; Joseph Brunner; Andrew Shin;
ccielab@groupstudy.com; Larry Letterman (lletterm)
Subject: RE: Contract Position in Los Angeles area
No wonder so many California big city types have been showing up
here in CO!! With a CCNP/CCDP it's possible to earn a W2 hourly wage
within the range you're talking about below (definitely towards the
lower end of that range, but within that range nonetheless)...
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Contract Position in Los Angeles area
From: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, August 17, 2007 3:51 pm
To: "Larry Letterman (lletterm)" <lletterm@cisco.com>
Cc: "Craig Tompkins" <sidalo@gmail.com>, "Joseph
Brunner"
<joe@affirmedsystems.com>, "Andrew Shin"
<mr.dude@gmail.com>,
ccielab@groupstudy.com
I live in LA and the hourly rate for a CCIE for a long
term contract is
anywhere from 45 - 100 per hour. 100 per hour requires
lots of experiance.
On 8/17/07, Larry Letterman (lletterm)
<lletterm@cisco.com
<http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&fol
der=INBOX&uid=22#Compose> > wrote:
>
> Go check house prices in LA then..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
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der=INBOX&uid=22#Compose> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com
<http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&fol
der=INBOX&uid=22#Compose> ] On Behalf Of
> Narbik Kocharians
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 3:20 PM
> To: Craig Tompkins
> Cc: Joseph Brunner; Andrew Shin;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
<http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&fol
der=INBOX&uid=22#Compose>
> Subject: Re: Contract Position in Los Angeles area!
>
> This is NOT a bad pay for a NP or even a CCIE that
just starting with
> very little exp.
>
> On 8/17/07, Craig Tompkins <sidalo@gmail.com
<http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&fol
der=INBOX&uid=22#Compose> > wrote:
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > Is this hostility leftover from your 8th attempt?
> >
> > The base pay yes is 50 x 2080 = 104,000 yearly
assuming no overtime.
> > Yes you are right that after providing their own
insurance, that the
> > position paying that amount on a contracting basis
in the LA area is a
>
> > little low. You could have pointed this out, hile
being a little more
>
> > respectful and professional.
> >
> > --
> > Craig Tompkins
> > CCIE #16921
> >
> > On 8/17/07, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com
<http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&fol
der=INBOX&uid=22#Compose> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry, but $50 an hour is hardly $100k per year...
and from that you
> > want
> > > me
> > > to buy
> > >
> > > -business liability insurance
> > > -business errors & omissions insurance (usually
required to get the
> > first)
> > > -the employers 7.2% share of social security (on
the first $97,000)
> > > -my own health insurance -contribute to my own
401k.
> > >
> > > I don't say this lightly, but go $#ck yourself. Do
you think anyone
> > > any good is going to do that job for about $60k a
year?
> > >
> > > -Joe
> > >!
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
<http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&fol
der=INBOX&uid=22#Compose> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com
<http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&fol
der=INBOX&uid=22#Compose> ] On Behalf
>
> > > Of Andrew Shin
> > > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 2:36 PM
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
<http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&fol
der=INBOX&uid=22#Compose>
> > > Subject: Contract Position in Los Angeles area
> > >
> > > Hi all, I'm forwarding this for a friend. I'll
also post this on
> > > the
> > job
> > > board, but I'm not sure how many people check
that.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > 1+ year local contract (hourly consultancy 50/hr
range) in the Los
> > Angeles
> > > area (South Bay)
> > > It's with a well established and well known global
company and has
> > > the likelihood of extending for a long time.
> > >
> > > Network Engineer
> > > Mid to Senior level NW Engineer who has large
corporate NW
> > > engineering experience.
> > > WAN/LAN, VOIP.
> > > 7-10 years of NW Engineering experience Experience
working within an
>
> > > environment that is comprised of Unix, Windows,
and Mainframe (need
> > > to have worked with all three environments)
Experience providing
> > ! > pro of of concept and presenting design and
recommendations to team
> > > members and management.
> > > Provide 3rd level support.
> > > Experience with Cisco 2600-7200 routers and Cisco
350 switches. E
> > > Experience with Firewall, PIX, VPN 3000
Concentrator, ATM, and video
>
> > > conferencing.
> > > Professional with good communication abilities
> > >
> > > Please contact matthew.chontos@ispace.com
<http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&fol
der=INBOX&uid=22#Compose>
> > >
> > >
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