From: Parthiban Devadass (parthiban.devadass@googlemail.com)
Date: Thu Jun 28 2007 - 07:32:05 ART
Hi,
Below is my openion on this subject
we have to read all the questions twice (recommended) or atleast once,
we need to draw single master topology (Switching,IGP,BGP and Multicast)
with different colors for each
Shouldn't take more than 30 Minutes to do the above tasks.This 30 minutes
work really helps to drive our remaining 7 and half hours smoothly
Rgds,
Parthiban Devadass, CCIE No.18086
On 6/28/07, Salau, Yemi <yemi.salau@siemens.com> wrote:
> It's good that we all have different opinions about different
> strategies, but for me, I find reading the whole lab and drawing to
> waste 30-60mins of my time. For me, time is too precious and any bit of
> time I can save will help during troubleshooting at the tail end of the
> lab.
>
> I prefer to just scan through the lab and picture the lab diagram in my
> mind, this usually takes about 10-15mins, yes I was burnt using this
> strategy, but, because I had enough time at the tail end, I was able to
> quickly fix the problems.
>
> I'm not saying reading the whole lab is bad, I'm just sharing my own
> personal experience ... People go in and use process-ids which they're
> used to, use rack numbers which they are used to, use router-ids which
> they're used to and then end up finding at the end that it was such a
> great mistake because Cisco specifically asked for something else. For
> me, I'll rather make mistakes, have enuf time to fix it, than being too
> carefull and never have enuf time to troubleshoot your lab. There is no
> harm in being careful though, whichever strategy works for you, make
> sure you perfect your acts before getting into the Lab. That's my humble
> personal take on this
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Yemi Salau
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Petr Lapukhov
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:56 AM
> To: Arin and Rachel Richmond
> Cc: Stephen Lee; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: More R&S Strategy
>
> Reading the lab and making diagrams could be also viewed as a nice
> way to calm yourself down and reduce stress by the beginning of the
> exam. They also help you building concentration and getting in focus.
>
> It is well know that stress is the main enemy during the lab exam. So
> if you come to the lab, having a clear plan in your head, and you keep
> executing this plan, this will greatly help!
>
> Of course, planning and diagramming requires some additional practice
> along with your preparations. Do not underestimate importance of this
> techniques, for they can really make the difference between passing or
> failing.
>
> --
> Petr Lapukhov, CCIE #16379 (R&S/Security/SP)
> petr@internetworkexpert.com
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
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>
> 2007/6/28, Arin and Rachel Richmond <therichmonds@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would definitely recommend reading the entire lab at the beginning
> to
> > identify any dependencies of one section on another. Say you had to
> put
> > Multicast on your topology and you were not permitted to use static
> > mroutes.
> > In this scenario you need to ensure your routing is complementary to
> the
> > paths that have PIM enabled, otherwise you will run into RPF issues.
> >
> > This is just one example of where you will come unstuck if you don't
> get
> > the
> > bigger picture at the start of the lab. Having said that, this will
> not
> > always be a problem, it depends heavily on the tasks of your lab, but
> how
> > do
> > you know if it will be a problem or not if you do not read ahead?
> >
> > As for diagrams. Do what feels right when you are practicing. Stick to
> the
> > same style and plan in the real thing. You will know how long it takes
> to
> > complete practice labs and if you have time to diagram or not, just be
> > sure
> > to budget extra time for the stress factor.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Arin
> > CCIE #18318
> >
> > On 28/06/07, Stephen Lee <slee@packet360.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't know about that plan.
> > >
> > > In my experience if you do everything that was laid out in that plan
> you
> > > do not leave enough time for troubleshooting at the end. I finished
> the
> > > entire thing at 1:30 on my 1st and still didn't have enough time for
> > > troubleshooting a couple key things and failed by a couple points.
> > >
> > > I think redrawing something that is already given to you is just
> wasting
> > > precious time and that is something you cannot do and expect to
> pass.
> > > Also do you expect to remember something from the last section that
> you
> > > read 5 hours ago when you actually get to it?
> > >
> > > I have had multiple people who have passed it say just read the
> section
> > > you are working on thouroughly and don't worry about reading the
> entire
> > > lab at the beginning. You will not remember it by the time you get
> to it
> > > because you are so immersed in what you are doing that you just
> waste
> > > time in the beginning....
> > >
> > > Just my .02 cents and everybody's brain works differently so what
> might
> > > work for me doesn't for someone else.
> > >
> > > Good luck on your 2nd attempt Eric. Mine is on 7/9... :)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Eric Dobyns
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:23 PM
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: More R&S Strategy
> > >
> > > Any more documents out there like this one?
> > > http://www.ksu.ru/petr/CCIE-RS-Checklist-draft-part-1-v2.txt
> > >
> > >
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