RE: More R&S Strategy

From: Salau, Yemi (yemi.salau@siemens.com)
Date: Thu Jun 28 2007 - 06:55:30 ART

It's good that we all have different opinions about different
strategies, but for me, I find reading the whole lab and drawing to
waste 30-60mins of my time. For me, time is too precious and any bit of
time I can save will help during troubleshooting at the tail end of the
lab.

I prefer to just scan through the lab and picture the lab diagram in my
mind, this usually takes about 10-15mins, yes I was burnt using this
strategy, but, because I had enough time at the tail end, I was able to
quickly fix the problems.

I'm not saying reading the whole lab is bad, I'm just sharing my own
personal experience ... People go in and use process-ids which they're
used to, use rack numbers which they are used to, use router-ids which
they're used to and then end up finding at the end that it was such a
great mistake because Cisco specifically asked for something else. For
me, I'll rather make mistakes, have enuf time to fix it, than being too
carefull and never have enuf time to troubleshoot your lab. There is no
harm in being careful though, whichever strategy works for you, make
sure you perfect your acts before getting into the Lab. That's my humble
personal take on this

Many Thanks
 
Yemi Salau

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Petr Lapukhov
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:56 AM
To: Arin and Rachel Richmond
Cc: Stephen Lee; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: More R&S Strategy

Reading the lab and making diagrams could be also viewed as a nice
way to calm yourself down and reduce stress by the beginning of the
exam. They also help you building concentration and getting in focus.

It is well know that stress is the main enemy during the lab exam. So
if you come to the lab, having a clear plan in your head, and you keep
executing this plan, this will greatly help!

Of course, planning and diagramming requires some additional practice
along with your preparations. Do not underestimate importance of this
techniques, for they can really make the difference between passing or
failing. 

-- 
Petr Lapukhov, CCIE #16379 (R&S/Security/SP)
petr@internetworkexpert.com

Internetwork Expert, Inc.
http://www.InternetworkExpert.com

2007/6/28, Arin and Rachel Richmond <therichmonds@gmail.com>:
>
> Hi,
>
> I would definitely recommend reading the entire lab at the beginning
to
> identify any dependencies of one section on another. Say you had to
put
> Multicast on your topology and you were not permitted to use static
> mroutes.
> In this scenario you need to ensure your routing is complementary to
the
> paths that have PIM enabled, otherwise you will run into RPF issues.
>
> This is just one example of where you will come unstuck if you don't
get
> the
> bigger picture at the start of the lab. Having said that, this will
not
> always be a problem, it depends heavily on the tasks of your lab, but
how
> do
> you know if it will be a problem or not if you do not read ahead?
>
> As for diagrams. Do what feels right when you are practicing. Stick to
the
> same style and plan in the real thing. You will know how long it takes
to
> complete practice labs and if you have time to diagram or not, just be
> sure
> to budget extra time for the stress factor.
>
> Regards,
>
> Arin
> CCIE #18318
>
> On 28/06/07, Stephen Lee <slee@packet360.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know about that plan.
> >
> > In my experience if you do everything that was laid out in that plan
you
> > do not leave enough time for troubleshooting at the end. I finished
the
> > entire thing at 1:30 on my 1st and still didn't have enough time for
> > troubleshooting a couple key things and failed by a couple points.
> >
> > I think redrawing something that is already given to you is just
wasting
> > precious time and that is something you cannot do and expect to
pass.
> > Also do you expect to remember something from the last section that
you
> > read 5 hours ago when you actually get to it?
> >
> > I have had multiple people who have passed it say just read the
section
> > you are working on thouroughly and don't worry about reading the
entire
> > lab at the beginning. You will not remember it by the time you get
to it
> > because you are so immersed in what you are doing that you just
waste
> > time in the beginning....
> >
> > Just my .02 cents and everybody's brain works differently so what
might
> > work for me doesn't for someone else.
> >
> > Good luck on your 2nd attempt Eric. Mine is on 7/9... :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> > Eric Dobyns
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:23 PM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: More R&S Strategy
> >
> > Any more documents out there like this one?
> > http://www.ksu.ru/petr/CCIE-RS-Checklist-draft-part-1-v2.txt
> >
> >

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