From: Du, Jianbo (jdu@ebay.com)
Date: Thu Jun 21 2007 - 06:07:46 ART
From my understanding, it is a part of troubleshooting. Is it possible
from your view?
Regards,
Jerry
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
cisco efiko
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:59 PM
To: joh willi
Cc: Shakeer AC; Joe Rinehart; Salau, Yemi; CCIE SG
Subject: Re: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
Guys,
I think all the Europe guys should do a mail to Cisco concerning this
ASAP, and anyone else in the world that cares enough about it.
Regards,
Efiko.
On 6/21/07, joh willi <wjoh71@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi GS,
>
> I think that this is happening only in Brussels. Anyone who took in
> other parts could comment on this?.
> Making the running config useless (1hr before end of exam) is not
> acceptable. I am afraid to take the exam in Brussels.
> If this is happening only in Brussels, I think senior members should
> report to CISCO or warn the other candidate not to take exam in
> Brussels. What do you think?.
>
> - Joh.
>
> On 6/21/07, Shakeer AC <shakeerac@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Guys I am the new victim yesterday IN BRUSSELS.
> >
> > I had finshed the configs by lunch time. I checked once and
> > everythng
> was
> > working.
> >
> > The second time i checked i found the the redistribute has been
> > taken
> off
> > from ospf.
> >
> > also the multicast ip's was nnot reachable all of a sudden. one of
> > the
> BB
> > ip's got changed.
> >
> > All these were last one hour changes. So guys better lock the
> > proctor
> from
> > the lab before you start the exam.
> >
> > I have been reading lots of mail on this but this is the fact .
> >
> > Whatso ever this is not professional from Cisco and lets hope this
> > will end soon.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Shakeer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/19/07, Joe Rinehart <jjrinehart@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well what goes around comes around...maybe that's why it took me
> > > FIVE attempts :)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > > Behalf
> Of
> > > Salau, Yemi
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:07 AM
> > > To: Joe Rinehart; CCIE SG
> > > Subject: RE: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> > >
> > > In the Lab, He who brings down his Layer-2 should also be the one
> > > to
> > bring
> > > it back up... At least he will find this out one way or the other.
> > > Although I suppose there are those who use CCIE Lab Racks as
> > > another collection of Practise Labs.
> > >
> > > With regards to Proctors, I have decided to be diplomatic, maybe
> > > when
> I
> > > get
> > > my magic numbers I wouldn't .... But for now, Proctors are my best
> > friends
> > > in this Business :-) lol!
> > >
> > > Many Thanks
> > >
> > > Yemi Salau
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > > Behalf
> Of
> > > Joe
> > > Rinehart
> > > Sent: 18 June 2007 18:34
> > > To: 'Gary Duncanson'; 'Scott Morris'
> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: RE: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> > >
> > > Although occasionally a lab candidate will do something
> > > unintentional
> > like
> > > setting PAGP unconditionally that subsequently takes down the
> > > entire
> > Layer
> > > 2
> > > switching backbone in the lab...
> > >
> > > Although that is just an anecdotal tale :)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > > Behalf
> Of
> > > Gary
> > > Duncanson
> > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:24 AM
> > > To: Scott Morris
> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> > >
> > > I think this is just another manifestation of 'The Fear'.
> > >
> > > Proctors do not sabotage or screw around with lab candidates
> > > configurations.
> > >
> > > They do read groupstudy though :)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>
> > > To: "'Digital Yemeni'" <digital.yemeni@gmail.com>; <
> > ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > >
> > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 1:41 PM
> > > Subject: RE: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> > >
> > >
> > > > CCIE Ghost Whisperers? ;)
> > > >
> > > > While personally, I would expect the troubleshooting portion to
> expand
> > > a
> > > > bit, the ideas where I see it going have nothing to do with
> > > > live, intermittant, random things being injected. That would be
> > > > unfair on
> > > many
> > > > levels.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
> > > > #4713,
> > > JNCIE
> > > > #153, CISSP, et al.
> > > > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > > > VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> > > > IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> > > >
> > > > A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
> > > >
> > > > smorris@ipexpert.com
> > > >
> > > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> > > > Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> > > > http://www.ipexpert.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > > > Behalf
> > > Of
> > > > Digital Yemeni
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:31 AM
> > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > Subject: Re: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> > > >
> > > > While it's VERY unreasonable for something like this to happen,
> > > > the
> > > only
> > > > worry is that spreading of these rumors may make them come for
> > > > real
> > > one
> > > > day!! :) I guess some guys are just stressed before even
> > > > entering
> the
> > > > lab!!
> > > > ;-) If anyone has this amount of stress before even getting into
> > > > the
> > > real
> > > > thing i would assure you that he/she can see ghosts on the lab
> booklet
> > > as
> > > > well! :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 6/18/07, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> While obviously it's hard to track things like that, I'd
> > > >> venture to say there's nothing the proctor has to gain by doing
> > > >> things like
> that
> > > >> mid-config. If they wanted to make you fail, they could just
> > > >> wait until the end of the exam and change whatever they felt
> > > >> like
> > > changing.
> > > >>
> > > >> While troubleshooting IS indeed part of the testing process,
> > > >> it's fairly well spelled out. And from what I remember reading
> > > >> in Maurillio's Ask-the-Expert Q&A session on NetPro, it was
> specifically
> > > >> mentioned about the problems in startup configs and not ongoing
> > > changes
> > > > introduced.
> > > >>
> > > >> Depending on your process of configuration, (e.g. cut 'n'
> > > >> paste)
> I'd
> > > >> say there's a myriad of possibilities to introduce errors like
> > > >> that all by yourself without any outside intervention.
> > > >>
> > > >> No offense to anyone who mentions this has happened to them,
> > > >> but
> it's
> > > >> just not plausible. If the proctor had it out for you, in that
> they
> > > >> wanted you to fail, there are so many other ways to do it
> > > >> without introducing the potential of getting caught that this
> > > >> makes no
> sense.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
> > > >> #4713, JNCIE #153, CISSP, et al.
> > > >> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > > >> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> > > >> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> > > >>
> > > >> A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
> > > >>
> > > >> smorris@ipexpert.com
> > > >>
> > > >> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> > > >> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> > > >> http://www.ipexpert.com
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> Behalf
> > > >> Of wjoh71@gmail.com
> > > >> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 3:55 AM
> > > >> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > >> Subject: Re: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> > > >>
> > > >> Hello,
> > > >>
> > > >> I also had the same problem. 30 minutes before the end of exam
> > > >> in BRUSSELS, I noticed a couple of changes in the routers and
> switches.
> > > >> For example,
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. network statement (ip address ) under ospf got changed.
> > > >> 2. area 1 nssa kept in the other router though i configured in
> > > >> the right router.
> > > >> 3. additional eigrp process was running in the router.
> > > >>
> > > >> I am not sure whether these are part of exam troubleshooting or
> these
> > > >> are introduced by the proctors intentionally to make the
> > > >> candidates
> > > to
> > > > fail.
> > > >> Could any one comment on this?.
> > > >>
> > > >> thanks,
> > > >> Joh
> > > >>
> > > >>
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> > > > --
> > > > Best Regards!
> > > > Digital, CCIE# to be assigned by Cisco when it collects enough
> > > > $$
> out
> > > of
> > > > me!
> > > > :p
> > > >
> > > >
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