From: Colin McNamara (colin@2cups.com)
Date: Thu Jun 21 2007 - 01:43:17 ART
It sounds like someone pissed off their proctor ;)
In all seriousness, I know there have been times when I could SWEAR that
something was up. But at the end of the day, when I take into account
the stresses, exhaustion (and sometimes confusion) I think it is more
likely that I made an error.
And even if a proctor had his gremlin hat on, I see it as a good thing.
Things like this help the CCIE program retain its lustre.
--Colin
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 07:52 +0400, Shakeer AC wrote:
> Hey Guys I am the new victim yesterday IN BRUSSELS.
>
> I had finshed the configs by lunch time. I checked once and everythng was
> working.
>
> The second time i checked i found the the redistribute has been taken off
> from ospf.
>
> also the multicast ip's was nnot reachable all of a sudden. one of the BB
> ip's got changed.
>
> All these were last one hour changes. So guys better lock the proctor from
> the lab before you start the exam.
>
> I have been reading lots of mail on this but this is the fact .
>
> Whatso ever this is not professional from Cisco and lets hope this will end
> soon.
>
> Regards,
> Shakeer
>
>
>
>
> On 6/19/07, Joe Rinehart <jjrinehart@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well what goes around comes around...maybe that's why it took me FIVE
> > attempts :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Salau, Yemi
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:07 AM
> > To: Joe Rinehart; CCIE SG
> > Subject: RE: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> >
> > In the Lab, He who brings down his Layer-2 should also be the one to bring
> > it back up... At least he will find this out one way or the other.
> > Although I suppose there are those who use CCIE Lab Racks as another
> > collection of Practise Labs.
> >
> > With regards to Proctors, I have decided to be diplomatic, maybe when I
> > get
> > my magic numbers I wouldn't .... But for now, Proctors are my best friends
> > in this Business :-) lol!
> >
> > Many Thanks
> >
> > Yemi Salau
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Joe
> > Rinehart
> > Sent: 18 June 2007 18:34
> > To: 'Gary Duncanson'; 'Scott Morris'
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> >
> > Although occasionally a lab candidate will do something unintentional like
> > setting PAGP unconditionally that subsequently takes down the entire Layer
> > 2
> > switching backbone in the lab...
> >
> > Although that is just an anecdotal tale :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Gary
> > Duncanson
> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:24 AM
> > To: Scott Morris
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> >
> > I think this is just another manifestation of 'The Fear'.
> >
> > Proctors do not sabotage or screw around with lab candidates
> > configurations.
> >
> > They do read groupstudy though :)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>
> > To: "'Digital Yemeni'" <digital.yemeni@gmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > >
> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 1:41 PM
> > Subject: RE: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> >
> >
> > > CCIE Ghost Whisperers? ;)
> > >
> > > While personally, I would expect the troubleshooting portion to expand
> > a
> > > bit, the ideas where I see it going have nothing to do with live,
> > > intermittant, random things being injected. That would be unfair on
> > many
> > > levels.
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> > JNCIE
> > > #153, CISSP, et al.
> > > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > > VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> > > IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> > >
> > > A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
> > >
> > > smorris@ipexpert.com
> > >
> > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> > > Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> > > http://www.ipexpert.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> > > Digital Yemeni
> > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:31 AM
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> > >
> > > While it's VERY unreasonable for something like this to happen, the
> > only
> > > worry is that spreading of these rumors may make them come for real
> > one
> > > day!! :) I guess some guys are just stressed before even entering the
> > > lab!!
> > > ;-) If anyone has this amount of stress before even getting into the
> > real
> > > thing i would assure you that he/she can see ghosts on the lab booklet
> > as
> > > well! :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/18/07, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> While obviously it's hard to track things like that, I'd venture to
> > >> say there's nothing the proctor has to gain by doing things like that
> > >> mid-config. If they wanted to make you fail, they could just wait
> > >> until the end of the exam and change whatever they felt like
> > changing.
> > >>
> > >> While troubleshooting IS indeed part of the testing process, it's
> > >> fairly well spelled out. And from what I remember reading in
> > >> Maurillio's Ask-the-Expert Q&A session on NetPro, it was specifically
> > >> mentioned about the problems in startup configs and not ongoing
> > changes
> > > introduced.
> > >>
> > >> Depending on your process of configuration, (e.g. cut 'n' paste) I'd
> > >> say there's a myriad of possibilities to introduce errors like that
> > >> all by yourself without any outside intervention.
> > >>
> > >> No offense to anyone who mentions this has happened to them, but it's
> > >> just not plausible. If the proctor had it out for you, in that they
> > >> wanted you to fail, there are so many other ways to do it without
> > >> introducing the potential of getting caught that this makes no sense.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> > >> JNCIE #153, CISSP, et al.
> > >> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > >> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> > >> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> > >>
> > >> A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
> > >>
> > >> smorris@ipexpert.com
> > >>
> > >> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> > >> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> > >> http://www.ipexpert.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > >> Of wjoh71@gmail.com
> > >> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 3:55 AM
> > >> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > >> Subject: Re: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> > >>
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> I also had the same problem. 30 minutes before the end of exam in
> > >> BRUSSELS, I noticed a couple of changes in the routers and switches.
> > >> For example,
> > >>
> > >> 1. network statement (ip address ) under ospf got changed.
> > >> 2. area 1 nssa kept in the other router though i configured in the
> > >> right router.
> > >> 3. additional eigrp process was running in the router.
> > >>
> > >> I am not sure whether these are part of exam troubleshooting or these
> > >> are introduced by the proctors intentionally to make the candidates
> > to
> > > fail.
> > >> Could any one comment on this?.
> > >>
> > >> thanks,
> > >> Joh
> > >>
> > >>
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> > > --
> > > Best Regards!
> > > Digital, CCIE# to be assigned by Cisco when it collects enough $$ out
> > of
> > > me!
> > > :p
> > >
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