From: joh willi (wjoh71@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Jun 21 2007 - 05:04:16 ART
Hi GS,
I think that this is happening only in Brussels. Anyone who took in other
parts could comment on this?.
Making the running config useless (1hr before end of exam) is not
acceptable. I am afraid to take the exam in Brussels.
If this is happening only in Brussels, I think senior members should report
to CISCO or warn the other candidate not to take exam in Brussels. What do
you think?.
- Joh.
On 6/21/07, Shakeer AC <shakeerac@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Guys I am the new victim yesterday IN BRUSSELS.
>
> I had finshed the configs by lunch time. I checked once and everythng was
> working.
>
> The second time i checked i found the the redistribute has been taken off
> from ospf.
>
> also the multicast ip's was nnot reachable all of a sudden. one of the BB
> ip's got changed.
>
> All these were last one hour changes. So guys better lock the proctor from
> the lab before you start the exam.
>
> I have been reading lots of mail on this but this is the fact .
>
> Whatso ever this is not professional from Cisco and lets hope this will
> end
> soon.
>
> Regards,
> Shakeer
>
>
>
>
> On 6/19/07, Joe Rinehart <jjrinehart@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well what goes around comes around...maybe that's why it took me FIVE
> > attempts :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Salau, Yemi
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:07 AM
> > To: Joe Rinehart; CCIE SG
> > Subject: RE: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> >
> > In the Lab, He who brings down his Layer-2 should also be the one to
> bring
> > it back up... At least he will find this out one way or the other.
> > Although I suppose there are those who use CCIE Lab Racks as another
> > collection of Practise Labs.
> >
> > With regards to Proctors, I have decided to be diplomatic, maybe when I
> > get
> > my magic numbers I wouldn't .... But for now, Proctors are my best
> friends
> > in this Business :-) lol!
> >
> > Many Thanks
> >
> > Yemi Salau
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Joe
> > Rinehart
> > Sent: 18 June 2007 18:34
> > To: 'Gary Duncanson'; 'Scott Morris'
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> >
> > Although occasionally a lab candidate will do something unintentional
> like
> > setting PAGP unconditionally that subsequently takes down the entire
> Layer
> > 2
> > switching backbone in the lab...
> >
> > Although that is just an anecdotal tale :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Gary
> > Duncanson
> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:24 AM
> > To: Scott Morris
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> >
> > I think this is just another manifestation of 'The Fear'.
> >
> > Proctors do not sabotage or screw around with lab candidates
> > configurations.
> >
> > They do read groupstudy though :)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>
> > To: "'Digital Yemeni'" <digital.yemeni@gmail.com>; <
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > >
> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 1:41 PM
> > Subject: RE: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> >
> >
> > > CCIE Ghost Whisperers? ;)
> > >
> > > While personally, I would expect the troubleshooting portion to expand
> > a
> > > bit, the ideas where I see it going have nothing to do with live,
> > > intermittant, random things being injected. That would be unfair on
> > many
> > > levels.
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> > JNCIE
> > > #153, CISSP, et al.
> > > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > > VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> > > IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> > >
> > > A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
> > >
> > > smorris@ipexpert.com
> > >
> > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> > > Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> > > http://www.ipexpert.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> > > Digital Yemeni
> > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:31 AM
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> > >
> > > While it's VERY unreasonable for something like this to happen, the
> > only
> > > worry is that spreading of these rumors may make them come for real
> > one
> > > day!! :) I guess some guys are just stressed before even entering the
> > > lab!!
> > > ;-) If anyone has this amount of stress before even getting into the
> > real
> > > thing i would assure you that he/she can see ghosts on the lab booklet
> > as
> > > well! :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/18/07, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> While obviously it's hard to track things like that, I'd venture to
> > >> say there's nothing the proctor has to gain by doing things like that
> > >> mid-config. If they wanted to make you fail, they could just wait
> > >> until the end of the exam and change whatever they felt like
> > changing.
> > >>
> > >> While troubleshooting IS indeed part of the testing process, it's
> > >> fairly well spelled out. And from what I remember reading in
> > >> Maurillio's Ask-the-Expert Q&A session on NetPro, it was specifically
> > >> mentioned about the problems in startup configs and not ongoing
> > changes
> > > introduced.
> > >>
> > >> Depending on your process of configuration, (e.g. cut 'n' paste) I'd
> > >> say there's a myriad of possibilities to introduce errors like that
> > >> all by yourself without any outside intervention.
> > >>
> > >> No offense to anyone who mentions this has happened to them, but it's
> > >> just not plausible. If the proctor had it out for you, in that they
> > >> wanted you to fail, there are so many other ways to do it without
> > >> introducing the potential of getting caught that this makes no sense.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> > >> JNCIE #153, CISSP, et al.
> > >> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > >> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> > >> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> > >>
> > >> A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
> > >>
> > >> smorris@ipexpert.com
> > >>
> > >> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> > >> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> > >> http://www.ipexpert.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > >> Of wjoh71@gmail.com
> > >> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 3:55 AM
> > >> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > >> Subject: Re: RE: RE : Attack by Proctor
> > >>
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> I also had the same problem. 30 minutes before the end of exam in
> > >> BRUSSELS, I noticed a couple of changes in the routers and switches.
> > >> For example,
> > >>
> > >> 1. network statement (ip address ) under ospf got changed.
> > >> 2. area 1 nssa kept in the other router though i configured in the
> > >> right router.
> > >> 3. additional eigrp process was running in the router.
> > >>
> > >> I am not sure whether these are part of exam troubleshooting or these
> > >> are introduced by the proctors intentionally to make the candidates
> > to
> > > fail.
> > >> Could any one comment on this?.
> > >>
> > >> thanks,
> > >> Joh
> > >>
> > >>
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> > > --
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> > > Digital, CCIE# to be assigned by Cisco when it collects enough $$ out
> > of
> > > me!
> > > :p
> > >
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