From: Jason Plank (Jason_Plank@condenast.com)
Date: Wed Jun 20 2007 - 08:27:48 ART
I actually think that's one thing the CCIE program could do to become a bit
more legit. The 3560 is a crap product seldom used in an enterprise. There
are a ton of CCIE's that have very little understanding of the chassis,
backplane, SUPs, modules available, and etc. Switching is switching...
Agreed, but how can you be considered a CCIE if you don't have a SOLID
understanding of the product that cisco is putting all of it's R&D into. You
don't see them evolving the 4500 series... They are _just_ switches. The
6500's they want to be able to do everything. (IDS, FWSM, VPN, CMM, and ETC)
Maybe part of the lab should be doing a SUP 720 upgrade going from Catos to
Native IOS :):)
On 6/20/07 4:55 AM, "Serdar Kut" <kutserdar@gmail.com> wrote:
> I actually agree with Narbik..It is a big shame not to be aware of 6500 and
> 4500 chasis and config tricks for a CCIE I think. And also, as a CCIE, most
> of time I deal with big chasis, not much with 3560s or less.
> It should be good I think
>
>
>
> Serdar Kut
> CCIE#18130
>
>
> On 6/20/07, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Actually i hope they do that, because that would be the closest thing to
>> the
>> real world. No matter where you go these days, you see at least one 6500
>> series up and running. I think it would benefit the program. You may see a
>> 3560 here and there, but you will definitely see a lot of firms having
>> 6500
>> series. To be honest i typically see a mixture of 4000/4500 and a 6500 in
>> a
>> collapsed core design.
>>
>>
>> On 6/19/07, Mike Kraus (mikraus) <mikraus@cisco.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not sure of the point of that in the R&S lab.... Really don't see them
>>> starting to test on the service modules on the 6500 in the R&S. And, in
>>> many cases the 3560 has greater feature velocity. So, it would cost the
>>> CCIE program more money, a more rack space, but doesn't really give them
>>> many more test topics.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Eric Dobyns
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 6:30 PM
>>> To: 'Digital Yemeni'; 'Narbik Kocharians'
>>> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: RE: Rumor mill time - Cat 6500 on R&S lab exam?
>>>
>>> I believe you have a 3550 and 3 3650 all running L3, which basically
>>> means you've got 13 routers to deal with.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Digital Yemeni
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:49 PM
>>> To: Narbik Kocharians
>>> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: Re: Rumor mill time - Cat 6500 on R&S lab exam?
>>>
>>> nope nope! Cisco has recently faced some severe budget limitations and
>>> brought back the 2500s and L2 1900 switches!! :p
>>>
>>> Brad, since you're a Cisco Sponsored Organization, the confirmation (not
>>> the
>>> question!) should come from you isn't it? ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/20/07, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I heard 85xx and 12xxx
>>>>
>>>> On 6/19/07, Brad Ellis <brad@ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone else hear this?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> Brad Ellis
>>>>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>>>>> CCSI#30482
>>>>> Network Learning Inc - A Cisco Sponsored Organization (SO) YES! We
>>>>> take Cisco Learning credits!
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>>>> Narbik Kocharians
>>>> CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
>>>> CCSI# 30832
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>>> Digital, CCIE# to be assigned by Cisco when it collects enough $$ out of
>>> me!
>>> :p
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>> CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
>> CCSI# 30832
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