From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Jun 18 2007 - 14:20:56 ART
Totttttttttttaly agreed with Scott.
On 6/18/07, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
>
> I didn't say it wasn't easier! I just said pick the easiest
> solution! In
> real life we do simply that, the easy way. In the lab, we have to pay
> attention to all the inane rules to make sure we pick the PROPER solution,
> not just one that works!
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Salau, Yemi [mailto:yemi.salau@siemens.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 12:17 PM
> To: smorris@ipexpert.com; CCIE SG
> Cc: Jason Guy (jguy); anthony.sequeira@thomson.com
> Subject: RE: Meaning of advertise
>
> I wonder Scott,
>
> Personally, I hate that method, although I know it (I have a very good
> senior colleague of mine who love it)
>
> Certainly, it's not easier than network esp in situations where you want
> to
> "activate" OSPF on multiple interfaces ... So you have to go round all of
> them ... Consider a production environment where you've got 30 ospf
> interfaces on a single router.
>
> Also, if you made a mistake and want to correct it you will have to go
> round
> all the interfaces ... This my friend, is not easier than network command
> in
> this respect.
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Yemi Salau
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Morris [mailto:smorris@ipexpert.com]
> Sent: 18 June 2007 17:12
> To: 'Jason Guy (jguy)'; Salau, Yemi; 'CCIE SG'
> Subject: RE: Meaning of advertise
>
> Why would that be any easier than "network x.x.x.x y.y.y.y area z" ? ;)
>
> Lab Paranoia. Not uncommon!
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Guy (jguy) [mailto:jguy@cisco.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 12:07 PM
> To: smorris@ipexpert.com; Salau, Yemi; CCIE SG
> Subject: RE: Meaning of advertise
>
> All very good points. :) I suppose I should have picked "advertise into
> protocol X" as my examples... I was just messing around in ospf when I
> thought of the question. :)
>
> So they typically do not allow you to use the "ip ospf X area Y"
> interface command? I guess that would be a little too easy. :)
>
> Cheers,
> Jason
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Morris [mailto:smorris@ipexpert.com]
> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:59 AM
> > To: 'Salau, Yemi'; Jason Guy (jguy); 'CCIE SG'
> > Subject: RE: Meaning of advertise
> >
> > Not to belabor something you may find obvious... But if you
> redistribute
> > a
> > route, it is not part of an area. :)
> >
> > So I'd look to the network statement, or the interface-based command
> in
> > 12.4.
> >
> > Don't spend too much time looking for random hidden issues.
> Experience
> > will
> > let you know all the hidden things, which are typically related to
> > inter-working of scenario questions, not any one single thing like
> > advertising a route!
> >
> >
> > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > Salau, Yemi
> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:16 AM
> > To: Jason Guy (jguy); CCIE SG
> > Subject: RE: Meaning of advertise
> >
> > Hiyah,
> >
> > I'm not a great fan of asking Proctor questions, From experience,
> Proctors
> > don't offer me what I never knew in the Lab. I've heard someone said a
>
> > Proctor in far east told a candidate that the candidate has got a
> better
> > knowledge of English than himself.
> >
> > Now to the point of the question: When the question says advertise a
> lo0
> > into area x, I wouldn't waste much time as one of the ways to do this
> > (Like we all know) is to activate OSPF on that lo0 {Although this
> > comes into OSPF as /32 by default with an ospf network type of
> > loopback ...
> > Again like we all know)
> >
> > Another way to do this will be to redistribute connected into OSPF
> with a
> > route-map matching only this lo0 (yet again, like we all know)
> >
> > I know there are ways to go about this even if we're restricted not to
> use
> > the network/redistribution method. One of which will be the interface
> > command "ip ospf <pid> area <areaid> ... Although you're almost
> forbidden
> > to
> > use this command if there is no restriction. I'm also sure there are
> other
> > ways to advertise a network into ospf.
> >
> > Bottom Line:
> > ADVERTISE: From my own point of view, the word advertise simply means,
> let
> > other non-directly connected OSPF routers see an OSPF Route in their
> > routing table to get to the Lo0 of the Specific Router in question.
> > (So,
> you're
> > advertising your lo0 to them!!!!)
> >
> > This could either be /32(default) or /24 (if required)
> >
> >
> > With regards to Asking Proctor Questions in the Lab, this is my own
> > opinion and I seriously believe there are so much nice proctors out
> > there,
> only
> > that
> > they are not allowed to give you a solution to questions, some give
> clues
> > and narrow down your options when questions don't specify, but you
> know
> > what? I'm yet to meet such a Proctor!!!
> >
> > Many Thanks
> >
> > Yemi Salau
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > Jason Guy (jguy)
> > Sent: 18 June 2007 15:40
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Meaning of advertise
> >
> > Hi group,
> >
> > This may be a dumb question but I will ask anyway. :)
> >
> > If a requirement/task/question uses the term "advertise", as in
> advertise
> > the loopback into area x, for example. Does "advertise" in this case
> mean
> > use any means necessary to get the address/prefix into the protocol
> > (network statement, redistribute, etc)? Obviously if there are
> > restrictions in
> the
> > lab, it limits the scope. I was just wondering if there is a right or
>
> > wrong interpretation of this term when there are no restrictions. I
> interpret
> > it
> > as bring the prefix into the routing protocol. Maybe this is a
> proctor
> > question if it comes up?
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
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-- Narbik Kocharians CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security) CCSI# 30832
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