RE: frame-relay minCIR purpose ?

From: John Gibson (johngibson1541@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Jun 13 2007 - 16:48:34 ART


Brian,

When you said this is "relatively new", did
you mean this is not a complete implementation ?

I am reading MQC FRTS, and just realized what they
mean by saying this,
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In configurations created by using traditional FRTS
commands, the minimum acceptable outgoing committed
information rate (minCIR) will be used as the total
available bandwidth for a policy map that has
class-based weighted fair queueing (CBWFQ) attached to
the map class for the PVC.

If the MQC-Based Frame Relay Traffic Shaping feature
is used to configure FRTS, the shaping rate that was
configured in the parent policy map using MQC will be
used as the total available bandwidth for the child
policy map, if CBWFQ is configured. If both the shape
average and shape adaptive commands are used for
traffic-shaping, the available bandwidth will be based
on the parameters specified by the shape adaptive
command
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This means adaptive shaping mechanism does not work in
hierarchical policy.
Not only MQC style but also old FRTS style.

When the minCIR or "shape adaptive" value is used as
"available bandwidth",
they can't throughput faster than the static
configured value to me.

If they only shape to the fixed configured speed, FECN
BECN signals aren't
taking effects to me. Also "shape average" and
"frame-relay cir" are
not in effect to me.

John

--- Brian McGahan <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>
wrote:

> minCIR is traditionally used for adaptive shaping
> with BECN,
> FECN, and Foresight. For example when BECN adapt is
> enabled and you
> receive a BECN from the Frame Relay network the
> shaping algorithm will
> incrementally slow down your sending rate either
> until BECNs stop being
> received or you reach the minCIR. Adaptive shaping
> to interface
> congestion is a relatively new feature, but uses the
> same concept. When
> the output queue length exceeds the configured value
> the shaper will
> back off either until the queue length drops below
> the configured value
> or you reach the minCIR, whichever comes first.
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP)
> bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> johngibson1541@yahoo.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 11:23 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: frame-relay minCIR purpose ?
>
> I know this will slow down the shaping rate when
> adaptive-shaping interface-congestion [queue depth]
> is reached.
>
> But in one sentence, minCIR's purpose is to maintain
> discrimination on packets by letting them dropped
> in the shaping 4 queues rather than dropping
> at the single software queue. Right?
>
>



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