From: Brad Ellis (brad@ccbootcamp.com)
Date: Sat Jun 09 2007 - 13:59:04 ART
Self-induced - something you did to your self.
for example:
Take a catalyst 6513 chasis with a couple power supplies in there. Feel free
to add as many modules as you can and still be able to lift the chasis off
the ground by yourself. Now pick up the 6513, and drop it on your foot. The
pain you feel will be "self-induced."
----- Original Message -----
From: "ismail el-shalh" <ishelh_mdsa@yahoo.com>
To: "ccielab" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: Attack by Proctor
Hi Scott,
What does "self-induced" means?
Ismail El-Shalh :)
MMR/MDSA
----- Original Message ----
From: Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com>
To: Paul Dardinski <pauld@marshallcomm.com>; Yinglam Cheung
<ccie6961@yahoo.com>; Jinhong Im <jhim@kornet.net>
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2007 7:01:08 PM
Subject: RE: Attack by Proctor
Like most of the troubleshooting within the lab, it may have fallen under
the category of "self-induced".
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Dardinski
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:27 AM
To: Yinglam Cheung; Jinhong Im
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Attack by Proctor
Hrmm.....don't remember a proctor even having the slightest interest in my
configs during any lab attempt....
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Yinglam Cheung
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:12 AM
To: Jinhong Im
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Attack by Proctor
I seldom wrote to the group, but the subject line caught me to take a look.
It would be interesting to know why proctor would get on your router to
check your configurations. AFAIK, proctors don't check candidates'
configs during the testing time. Did you suspect a bug and ask him to check?
I'd have asked proctor why he erased some configs if I were you.
In any case you can write to ccie@cisco.com or Cisco Certification Support
and I believe you can fill out feedbacks after finishing your lab.
Overall I feel proctors in my CCIE lab experience are very professional.
regards,
Yinglam
----- Original Message ----
From: Jinhong Im <jhim@kornet.net>
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2007 4:58:38 AM
Subject: Attack by Proctor
Hi GS,
Today I took my 4th R&S test.
After I checked all my configuration I found the proctor had changed too
many things, left about 20 minutes.
I really astonished because of too severe attacks by the proctor. He blew
out the whole BGP configuration on a switch and so many other configurations
I made. I tried to recover all them, but I couldn't have time to check it
again because the proctor was counting time. So I am not sure it all the
configurations were correct, and finally I found one missing configuration
and I couldn't be able to complete it because He was saying time was over.
I think it is too severe attack to cope.
I would like to know if there is a way to let Cisco know that there will be
few candidates to protect themselves from the attack.
Any opinion?
Regards
/JH
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