From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Jun 08 2007 - 02:08:21 ART
Everyone,
Victor only asked why it could not be the other way
around. A reasonable question.
He has not been at NLI for 6 months just yet as I
recall. Maybe, what, 4 months as I seem to recall.
Just because he asked the question does not make him
personall unethical. Let's reserve that statement for
the party who actually copied the other company's work
and posted it as their own.
I know Victor on a more personal level, and I for one,
do not believe he lacks ethics.
Victor has worked hard to get where he is and just
because he posted a link from his company here on GS,
that looks to be exactly the same as the one of a
competitor does not make him unethical.
Now, I would wonder when he site posted their page
since it seems to be an "interesting battle of ethics"
between two companies.
Someone obviously took the time to research the issue
and to figure out which features applied to which
version of IOS.
So who is right and who is wrong?
Brian Dennis asserts very strongly that he created
this work orginally and even has a link to it as early
as the date listed/marked on Groupstudy at minimum.
This may very well be the truth.
Now the question would be how long the link has been
up at NLI (to be fair).
I am sure Brad Ellis and his team are looking into
this one by now.
------------
But let's not attack an employ of the company who has
not been proven to be personally liable (unless the
company he his working for is willing to put his neck
on the line as well - since this is serious and could
be career-affecting).
So now the question is:
When did NLI post their that information on their
site?
Now if they should be able to produce proof that their
site had it first... are we going to hear an apology?
Or if they don't - again will we here an apology?
While someone obviously had to submit the information
for posting on NLI's site, and it may have even been
Victor, at the moment none of us, know this to be true
at this time.
Let's give Victor a small reprieve - he is getting
ready for a CCIE Lab at the moment and I am sure he
personally has better uses for his own mental
energies.
--- Brian Dennis <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>
wrote:
> Victor,
> So your company9s website ends up with a document
> that I wrote over 6 months
> ago (see below) and then you have the audacity to
> publicly accuse me of
> stealing it from you? I9ve seen some pretty poor
> ethics on this list over
> the years but I wouldn9t have expected it from you
> personally.
>
>
http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200611/msg00970.html
>
> --
>
> Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>
>
>
> On 6/7/07 5:37 PM, "Victor Cappuccio"
> <victor@ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
>
> > Brian,
> >
> > No, I ( WE ) did NOT copy the web page into "the
> company web server", Why
> It
> > could not be as the other way around?
> >
> > I am not the web master of my company web server,
> So I would advice you to
> > address your concerns to support@ccbootcamp.com
> >
> >
> > thanks,
> > Victor Cappuccio.-
> > - CCSI# 31452
> >
> > Network Learning Inc - A Cisco Sponsored
> Organization (SO) YES! We take
> > Cisco Learning credits!
> > victor@ccbootcamp.com
> > http://www.ccbootcamp.com (Cisco Training and
> Rental Racks)
> > http://www.ccbootcamp.com/groupstudy.html
> (groupstudy member discounts!)
> > Voice: 702-968-5100
> > FAX: 702-446-8012
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian Dennis
> [mailto:bdennis@internetworkexpert.com]
> > Sent: Thu 6/7/2007 8:15
> > To: Victor Cappuccio; thomas.rader@freesurf.ch;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: 3550/3560 feature comparison [mx]
> >
> > Victor,
> > So you just copied the page that I wrote
> months ago and put it up on
> > your site?
> >
> >
>
http://www.internetworkexpert.com/resources/ccie-3560-3550.htm
> >
> http://www.ccbootcamp.com/tech-notes/3550vs3560.html
> >
> > --
> >
> > Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210
> (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> >
> > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> > Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> > Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/7/07 12:39 AM, "Victor Cappuccio"
> <victor@ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > This link may help you
> >> >
> >> >
> http://www.ccbootcamp.com/tech-notes/3550vs3560.html
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > thanks,
> >> > Victor Cappuccio.-
> >> > - CCSI# 31452
> >> >
> >> > Network Learning Inc - A Cisco Sponsored
> Organization (SO) YES! We take
> >> > Cisco Learning credits!
> >> > victor@ccbootcamp.com
> >> > http://www.ccbootcamp.com (Cisco Training and
> Rental Racks)
> >> > http://www.ccbootcamp.com/groupstudy.html
> (groupstudy member discounts!)
> >> > Voice: 702-968-5100
> >> > FAX: 702-446-8012
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com on behalf of
> thomas.rader@freesurf.ch
> >> > Sent: Thu 6/7/2007 0:01
> >> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> > Subject: 3550/3560 feature comparison
> >> >
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone have a list of the differences in
> the features between the
> 3550
> &
> >> > 3560 switches?
> >> >
> >> > ie, PVLAN support, etc.
> >> >
> >> > I've only got 3550's in my ccie rack, and am
> trying to do a "gap
> analysis"
> >> to
> >> > see what I need to be aware of.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks, Thomas
> >> >
> >> >
>
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