From: Michael Zuo (mzuo@ixiacom.com)
Date: Mon May 28 2007 - 22:22:18 ART
In my opinion, it should take minimum amount of time, something like 20
minutes. The purpose of redrawing the diagram is to help you get a
mental picture of lab device L2/L3 layout. If you can figure everything
out just in your head, then no diagram redrawing is necessary :)
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
John Jones
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:02 PM
To: Jason Plank
Cc: Ronnie Angello; Gregory Gombas; Group study
Subject: Re: Which diagrams do you draw for yourself?
Itakes me about 20-25 min. to draw the daigrams I stated above. If I
take more than that, something is majorly wrong.
John
On 5/27/07, Jason Plank <Jason_Plank@condenast.com> wrote:
>
> I agree 100%
>
>
> On 5/27/07 10:28 AM, "Ronnie Angello" <ronnie.angello@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > I found that duplicating diagrams that are already provided to me is
> > a
> waste
> > of time. I guess it helps some to remember the topology but for me
> > it
> was
> > unnecessary. I did make diagrams for tasks where they weren't
> > already provided or where things weren't very clear. Once you sit
> > down and have everything in front of you, then you can read through
> > the entire lab and diagram whatever you feel you need to. I would
> > rather have extra time
> at
> > the end of the day to verify my configurations than to spend time
> drawing
> > redundant diagrams.
> >
> >
> > On 5/27/07, Gregory Gombas <ggombas@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> How long does it take you to draw all these diagrams? I calculated
> >> it take me about 45 minutes to an hour to draw out all these
diagrams.
> >>
> >> I am wondering if I can get by from just drawing the routers and
> >> the routing protocols but no IP address, vlans, or port
information.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> On 5/26/07, John Jones <acer0001@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> My plan is to use show cdp nei and draw out my L2 diagram first. I
> >>> can finish it with info from the switching section (trunks, port
> >>> channels, etc.). I find that I refer to this diagram quite a bit
> >>> when
> >> troubleshooting
> >>> vlans and ip connectivity.
> >>>
> >>> Next, I plan to draw out a routing protocol diagram with different
> color
> >>> circles for each protocol. I add vlan/subnet/dlci info to the
> >>> links. I
> >> may
> >>> add multicast RP, MA, source and destination info if needed (I use
> >>> double-asterisk to mark source and dest, a single asterisk to mark
> >>> IP multicast interfaces and RP and MA acronyms to avoid clutter).
> >>> I use
> the
> >>> given diagram for more details.
> >>>
> >>> I also plan to make a task chart to see where I am in the test,
> listing
> >>> point values for each. This way, I can manage my time better and
> >>> guage myself.
> >>>
> >>> HTH
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 5/26/07, Gregory Gombas <ggombas@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> When doing the lab which diagrams do you recommend should be draw
> >>>> out or copied from the lab diagrams? For instance should you draw
> >>>> out a separate diagram for each of the following - Layer 2, IGP,
> >>>> BGP, IPv6 and multicast or do you normally consolidate?
> >>>>
> >>>> I find it very time consuming to draw out separate diagrams for
> >>>> each topology but when I try to consolidate the diagram it gets
> >>>> too cluttered and confusing.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also to what level of detail do you draw them in i.e. is it
> >>>> necessary to copy all the IP addresses from the labs diagram or
> >>>> just refer to the lab diagram when you need to?
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm trying to find a balance between speed and utility.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Greg
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
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