From: Gregory Gombas (ggombas@gmail.com)
Date: Sun May 27 2007 - 11:11:12 ART
Good question Sadiq,
Would any brave soul be willing to reveal this?
Now that there are four switches I find myself spending more time on
drawing out layer 2 connectivity and spanning tree topologies. Do they
at least give you a layer 2 connection diagram in the lab?
Thanks again,
Greg
On 5/27/07, Sadiq Yakasai <sadiqtanko@gmail.com> wrote:
> I hope this question wouldnt require anyone breaking the NDA, but what
> diagrams would be provided actually?
>
>
> On 5/27/07, Jason Plank <Jason_Plank@condenast.com> wrote:
> >
> > That's fine. I am just surprised. There is nothing quick about checking
> CDP
> > on every router and documenting it. Since most people don't seem to have
> > enough time to get through the lab - it's hard to believe duplicating work
> > can actually be beneficial. I think a game plan is important, don't get me
> > wrong.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > On 5/26/07 10:55 PM, "Dave Schulz" < dschulz@skyline-ats.com> wrote:
> >
> > > If it helps you, and you can do it quickly....then maybe yes. The key
> here,
> > > I believe is to use whatever helps you arrive at the goal....passing the
> > > CCIE. I have heard some pass without making any diagram, while others
> do.
> > > The question is....what works for YOU.
> > >
> > > Dave Schulz
> > > dschulz@skyline-ats.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Jason Plank
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 10:36 PM
> > > To: John Jones; Gregory Gombas
> > > Cc: Group study
> > > Subject: Re: Which diagrams do you draw for yourself?
> > >
> > > Do you really think this is necessary?
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/26/07 8:16 PM, "John Jones" <acer0001@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> My plan is to use show cdp nei and draw out my L2 diagram first. I can
> > >> finish it with info from the switching section (trunks, port channels,
> > >> etc.). I find that I refer to this diagram quite a bit when
> > > troubleshooting
> > >> vlans and ip connectivity.
> > >>
> > >> Next, I plan to draw out a routing protocol diagram with different
> color
> > >> circles for each protocol. I add vlan/subnet/dlci info to the links. I
> may
> > >> add multicast RP, MA, source and destination info if needed (I use
> > >> double-asterisk to mark source and dest, a single asterisk to mark IP
> > >> multicast interfaces and RP and MA acronyms to avoid clutter). I use
> the
> > >> given diagram for more details.
> > >>
> > >> I also plan to make a task chart to see where I am in the test, listing
> > >> point values for each. This way, I can manage my time better and guage
> > >> myself.
> > >>
> > >> HTH
> > >>
> > >> John
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 5/26/07, Gregory Gombas <ggombas@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> When doing the lab which diagrams do you recommend should be draw out
> > >>> or copied from the lab diagrams? For instance should you draw out a
> > >>> separate diagram for each of the following - Layer 2, IGP, BGP, IPv6
> > >>> and multicast or do you normally consolidate?
> > >>>
> > >>> I find it very time consuming to draw out separate diagrams for each
> > >>> topology but when I try to consolidate the diagram it gets too
> > >>> cluttered and confusing.
> > >>>
> > >>> Also to what level of detail do you draw them in i.e. is it necessary
> > >>> to copy all the IP addresses from the labs diagram or just refer to
> > >>> the lab diagram when you need to?
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm trying to find a balance between speed and utility.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Greg
> > >>>
> > >>>
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