From: Todd, Douglas M. (DTODD@PARTNERS.ORG)
Date: Sat Apr 21 2007 - 11:56:24 ART
All:
My 2bits/bytes:
Cisco provides the avenue for levels of certifications for a reason. There is a
natural escalation in the knowledge needed to pass each certification level.
Being a certified teacher of Cisco CCNA Academy I get this question a few times
when people are looking to pass the ccna or ccnp. The ccnp is I still believe
broken up into different categories for a specific reason. This allows the
candidate to concentrate his/her energies on one specific topic at at time,
mastering that topic before moving on. The CCIE is the next phase where you are
required to understand... Master all those topics you studied during your CCNP,
plus some of the more advance topics which are not covered.
If you follow the path of CCNA, CCNP, CCIE or even any of the CCDA/CCDP routes
you will slowly (doing this slowly will only enhance your ability to later
understand and quickly understand more advance topics required to pass the CCIE)
gain, build and have not only the knowledge but the confidence to continue on
with your studying.
The CCIE as well as other exams can take the wind out of your sails. This is why
groups like this and teachers as well as others who have passed the
CCNA/CCNP/CCIE are very good mentors as well as motivators.
Just one last thing. People learn at different levels and speeds. To test where
you are you can read through the posts here, and review some of the free labs
from IPExperts, InternetworkExperts, NetmastersClass and see if you understand
the questions and the designs; ONLY YOU will know if you are one of those "fast
track" people or are ready for the CCNA/CCNP/CCIE.
The CCIE Lab is a much bigger committment which will change you as an engineer
and as an individual. It will not only strain your personal energies, strain
your finances, but can also cause tention with those around you because of the
time you need to "master" the technologies. The Last words in the certifications
of Expert, Professional and Associate were chosen by Cisco for a reason.
Everyones situation is different, only you can decide if you want to study for
the CCNP or just study the CCNP material as well as the advance topics and go
for the CCIE written then the CCIE Lab.
Good luck with which ever path you choose and use this group as a sounding board
if necessary (like you did).
DMT
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com on behalf of jslauer@hotmail.com
Sent: Sat 4/21/2007 10:26 AM
To: Tim; engshad.shady@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: need advise from expert people
I think I had just about all the professional Cert's (with exception of
CCVP) before I attempted the CCIE. I don't think it's a waste at all, as Tim
mentioned, it ensured I had a good base and there was not too many things
that surprised me.
Josh
CCIE 16024
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>
To: <engshad.shady@gmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 9:39 AM
Subject: RE: need advise from expert people
> Cisco does NOT require a ccnp in order to get ccie. However, all the
> knowledge and skills that are learned in getting a ccnp are necessary to
> get
> CCIE (R&S). So, getting a ccnp is a stepping stone on the way to a ccie.
>
> Also, taking the tests required for a ccnp can help highlight any areas
> which may need further strengthening.
>
> Also, keep in mind that there's a tremendous difference in the level of
> difficulty between the ccnp and the ccie. Some people can learn all the
> material needed for a ccnp in just a few months. While for most people -
> people who already have a ccnp - getting a ccie takes a few years.
>
> So, bottom line: you're not wasting effort or losing any time in getting
> a
> ccnp. You're just making sure you've got the fundamentals down solid as
> you
> prepare for the ccie.
>
> HTH, tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> engshad.shady@gmail.com
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 9:18 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: need advise from expert people
>
> iam now in my road to ccnp but the issue that i want to attend ccie .Some
> people tell me that you can go for it and the other tell me to go for ccnp
> first as a start
> then go on for ccie but i found the technology is the same so why do i
> have
> to waste my time .i have the money to invest in studying material and time
> now .iam ccna and i had finshied BCSI V3 and i work in infrastrucure DEP
> as
> it systems operator i learn more here from ccie people and also our
> inviroment is 100%cisco of alote of series ....
>
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