From: Martin Kiefer (martin@kiefer.dk)
Date: Wed Apr 18 2007 - 18:34:21 ART
Hi.
I think that a lot more people are reading the GS than there are people
writing. At both of mine attempts I heard people talking about posts on GS.
Especially at my first attempt I had some fun listening to a couple of guys
talking about that they had seen a rumor on GS that you should only have 70%
to pass after they introduced the new R&S lab ;-)
HTH
Martin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Darby Weaver
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:07 PM
> To: Scott Morris; 'Dusty'; 'Marvin Greenlee'; 'CCIE 19999'; 'Muhabat';
> 'Bill Mckenzie'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: where are the missing Numbers.
>
> I can say the same many of the people I took the lab
> with didn't use GS either.
>
> John Gibson and Duncan M. went on the same days as I
> last year but aside from them it was kind of lonely
> from a GS point of view.
>
>
> --- Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
>
> > If you believe anyone is violating NDA, perhaps you
> > should report them to
> > Cisco. Unknown violations can't exactly be
> > punished.
> >
> > But there is quite a history of people being
> > stripped (permanent "inactive"
> > status) of their CCIE. Including a training partner
> > not too long ago where
> > a quad CCIE now has none.
> >
> > But that's because they were discovered somehow, or
> > someone alerted them.
> > So if you see things like this happen certainly
> > don't tell us, tell Cisco!
> >
> >
> > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
> > Provider) #4713, JNCIE
> > #153, CISSP, et al.
> > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > IPexpert VP - Curriculum Development
> > IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> > smorris@ipexpert.com
> > http://www.ipexpert.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Dusty
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:21 PM
> > To: 'Marvin Greenlee'; 'CCIE 19999'; 'Muhabat';
> > 'Bill Mckenzie';
> > ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: where are the missing Numbers.
> >
> > Stripping CCIE because of breaking Cisco NDA??? What
> > is that??? I don't
> > think Cisco strip any CCIE because of NDA. I know
> > CyscoExpert in Chicago has
> > been breaking DNA to every student and continue
> > breaking but they are still
> > in business and their CCIE status still active.
> > Cisco employee still goes
> > there for training.
> > I know the Cisco AVVID TAC engineer teaching at
> > Cisco academy for part-time
> > breaking NDA and even gives his student the answer
> > for the test, his CCIE is
> > still active and he is still working for both Cisco
> > and Cisco academy...go
> > figure! Dusty - Former Cisco employee
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Marvin Greenlee
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 1:45 PM
> > To: 'CCIE 19999'; 'Muhabat'; 'Bill Mckenzie';
> > ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: where are the missing Numbers.
> >
> > Sometimes people let them lapse, and don't
> > recertify. The number is "active
> > CCIEs".
> >
> > Also, sometimes people get their CCIE(s) stripped
> > for NDA violations, etc.
> >
> > Also, the count didn't start at 0. Started at 1025,
> > I think?
> >
> > Marvin Greenlee, CCIE #12237 (R&S, SP, Sec) Senior
> > Technical Instructor -
> > IPexpert, Inc.
> > "When Will You Be an IP Expert?"
> > marvin@ipexpert.com
> > http://www.IPexpert.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of CCIE
> > 19999
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 1:34 PM
> > To: 'Muhabat'; 'Bill Mckenzie';
> > ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: where are the missing Numbers.
> >
> > This poses another question. The total number of
> > CCIEs as of 04.2.2007 is
> > 14387
> >
> (http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/certified_ccies/worldwide.h
> tml#t
> > op). The last number reported in GS is 17781. Why is
> > this difference?
> >
> > Regards,
> > RS
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Muhabat
> > Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2007 11:31 PM
> > To: 'Bill Mckenzie'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: where are the missing Numbers.
> >
> > So this brings another interesting question. Where
> > are the other study
> > mailing lists as comprehensive as this? I don't mind
> > even to learn an-other
> > language for this :)
> > BTW: IOS command line is also like a foreign
> > language.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Mckenzie [mailto:bmckenzie@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 4:07 PM
> > To: muhabat@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: where are the missing Numbers.
> >
> > Muhabat,
> > When I attended the lab (multiple times), during
> > lunch I would bring up
> > groupstudy and MOST of the people that were there
> > taking the lab with me
> > weren't a part of the list. This was just my
> > experience but I thought it was
> >
> > very interesting.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill Mckenzie, CCIE#16725, CCVP
> > Systems Engineer
> > Cisco Systems, Inc.
> > Phone: 614-425-2370
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > >Hi GS,
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> > >Just out of curiosity, one of members reported
> > 17774 and second one 17781.
> > >Where are those missing numbers? Actually these are
> > 7 numbers. And it
> > >looks very difficult that some on passed ccie
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