RE: where are the missing Numbers.

From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Apr 18 2007 - 18:06:55 ART


I can say the same many of the people I took the lab
with didn't use GS either.

John Gibson and Duncan M. went on the same days as I
last year but aside from them it was kind of lonely
from a GS point of view.

--- Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:

> If you believe anyone is violating NDA, perhaps you
> should report them to
> Cisco. Unknown violations can't exactly be
> punished.
>
> But there is quite a history of people being
> stripped (permanent "inactive"
> status) of their CCIE. Including a training partner
> not too long ago where
> a quad CCIE now has none.
>
> But that's because they were discovered somehow, or
> someone alerted them.
> So if you see things like this happen certainly
> don't tell us, tell Cisco!
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
> Provider) #4713, JNCIE
> #153, CISSP, et al.
> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> IPexpert VP - Curriculum Development
> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> smorris@ipexpert.com
> http://www.ipexpert.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Dusty
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:21 PM
> To: 'Marvin Greenlee'; 'CCIE 19999'; 'Muhabat';
> 'Bill Mckenzie';
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: where are the missing Numbers.
>
> Stripping CCIE because of breaking Cisco NDA??? What
> is that??? I don't
> think Cisco strip any CCIE because of NDA. I know
> CyscoExpert in Chicago has
> been breaking DNA to every student and continue
> breaking but they are still
> in business and their CCIE status still active.
> Cisco employee still goes
> there for training.
> I know the Cisco AVVID TAC engineer teaching at
> Cisco academy for part-time
> breaking NDA and even gives his student the answer
> for the test, his CCIE is
> still active and he is still working for both Cisco
> and Cisco academy...go
> figure! Dusty - Former Cisco employee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Marvin Greenlee
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 1:45 PM
> To: 'CCIE 19999'; 'Muhabat'; 'Bill Mckenzie';
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: where are the missing Numbers.
>
> Sometimes people let them lapse, and don't
> recertify. The number is "active
> CCIEs".
>
> Also, sometimes people get their CCIE(s) stripped
> for NDA violations, etc.
>
> Also, the count didn't start at 0. Started at 1025,
> I think?
>
> Marvin Greenlee, CCIE #12237 (R&S, SP, Sec) Senior
> Technical Instructor -
> IPexpert, Inc.
> "When Will You Be an IP Expert?"
> marvin@ipexpert.com
> http://www.IPexpert.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of CCIE
> 19999
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 1:34 PM
> To: 'Muhabat'; 'Bill Mckenzie';
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: where are the missing Numbers.
>
> This poses another question. The total number of
> CCIEs as of 04.2.2007 is
> 14387
>
(http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/certified_ccies/worldwide.html#t
> op). The last number reported in GS is 17781. Why is
> this difference?
>
> Regards,
> RS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Muhabat
> Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2007 11:31 PM
> To: 'Bill Mckenzie'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: where are the missing Numbers.
>
> So this brings another interesting question. Where
> are the other study
> mailing lists as comprehensive as this? I don't mind
> even to learn an-other
> language for this :)
> BTW: IOS command line is also like a foreign
> language.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Mckenzie [mailto:bmckenzie@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 4:07 PM
> To: muhabat@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: where are the missing Numbers.
>
> Muhabat,
> When I attended the lab (multiple times), during
> lunch I would bring up
> groupstudy and MOST of the people that were there
> taking the lab with me
> weren't a part of the list. This was just my
> experience but I thought it was
>
> very interesting.
>
>
>
> Bill Mckenzie, CCIE#16725, CCVP
> Systems Engineer
> Cisco Systems, Inc.
> Phone: 614-425-2370
>
>
>
>
>
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> >Hi GS,
> >
> >Just out of curiosity, one of members reported
> 17774 and second one 17781.
> >Where are those missing numbers? Actually these are
> 7 numbers. And it
> >looks very difficult that some on passed ccie
> without being part of
> >this mailing list.
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