From: DWINKWORTH@wi.rr.com
Date: Thu Mar 29 2007 - 20:01:27 ART
Hey Ryan.
One "technique" (if you can call it that) that I used that I think
helped me a LOT:
Whenever I missed something while doing a practice lab, I made a great
effort to make sure I didn't dismiss the problem as "oh I forgot a
keyword no big deal" or whatever.
With internetworkexpert, you get 12 hours of lab time. That's enough
time to do the practice lab and a few hours left to fully explore one
or two "features" that you haven't locked down in your mind yet. For
instance, multicast-helper maps. I just sat and messed with those for
four hours. Doing debugs. Removing a command here or there to see if
it breaks or changes and watching the debugs. I did this until I knew
exactly what every command was doing and what the debugs look like when
its not working. And I noted everything down (I used Freemind!). Then
I reviewed these notes at least 3 or 4 times a week.
There was probably close to 30 or 35 features that I took extensive
notes on and fiddled with greatly. Another good one is how many ways
to inject a default route into the various OSPF area types. When do
they break? How do they propogate are they N routes or E routes?
Etc.
There are really only a dozen or so really knotty things like this that
become crystal clear if you stop to just play with them and take
notes.
Just a thought. Not sure if it will help or not.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan <ryan95842@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:44 pm
Subject: Re: Frustrating - failed 1st attempt
To: Bryan F <cciebfetzer@gmail.com>
Cc: Cisco certification <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> 1) 6 years ISP work experience (lot's of
> FR/OSPF/BGP/switching/QoS/Security)2) Lots of reading (mostly
> ciscopress books)
> 3) Last 6 months of lab prep using InternetExpert COD and lab
> workbook, and
> also NMC's COD's (FR/IPv6)
> - 2-4 hours a night plus 8-12 on weekends for the last 6 months
> spenteither watching COD's, reading books, or doing practice labs
>
>
> -Ryan
>
>
>
>
> On 3/29/07, Bryan F <cciebfetzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ryan,
> > What has your preparation for the exam up to this point
> consisted of?
> >
> > Bryan F
> >
> > On 3/29/07, Ryan <ryan95842@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Thank you all for your comments,
> > >
> > > I spent all day in evaluation and over thinking what I
> configured and
> > what
> > > they had asked for...
> > >
> > > My scores do not merit a re-grade. According to the scores, I
> clearly> missed
> > > the mark. But why?
> > >
> > > As some have mentioned, attention to detail. I've been able to
> account> for
> > > several lost points because of just not doing what they asked. ACL
> > subnet
> > > mask not precise enough, etc. Sure the config worked, but it
> wasn't> exactly
> > > what they asked for. Several questions I should have gotten more
> > > clarification on, such as the conflicting naming convention
> directions> (this
> > > question pisses me off...)....some just not enough
> configuration or I
> > must
> > > have missed read something or ignored some important phrase (one
> > question in
> > > particular is bothering me. It mentioned something which had
> nothing to
> > do
> > > with the configuration option I was asked configure...I must
> find out
> > what
> > > that means)
> > >
> > > Bottom line is I failed because I did not meet all the
> requirements. I
> > think
> > > I can say I failed mostly because of attention to detail and
> reading> > comprehension. A tough pill to swallow. There ares
> still several missed
> > > points that I have no idea why.
> > >
> > > So at this point, my spirits are back up (a little) and I have
> an idea
> > what
> > > I need to focus on. Instead of taking practice labs, I'm going
> to the
> > > learning annex to learn how to read. (just kidding).
> > >
> > > Seriously though, I'm going to reschedule and try again in two
> months.> I'm
> > > going to spend that two months combing over the Doc CD and
> focusing on
> > > details.
> > >
> > > Not sure what else I can do...
> > >
> > > Again, thank you all for your support and encouragement.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Ryan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/29/07, Digital Yemeni <digital.yemeni@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Duncan,
> > > > while you made me really laugh i also urge you not to put
> the salt on
> > the
> > > > guy's wound! ;-)
> > > >
> > > > On 3/29/07, Duncan Maccubbin
> <duncan.maccubbin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "I'm extremely frustrated right now because I walked out
> believing I
> > had
> > > > > nailed it, yet I some how failed and I have no idea what went
> > wrong."
> > > > >
> > > > > If I had a nickel for every time I have seen this :). The
> devil is
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > details.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Could I have gotten someone else's score report?"
> > > > >
> > > > > Best case of denial ever! :).
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >From: Ryan <ryan95842@gmail.com>
> > > > > >Sent: Mar 28, 2007 7:06 PM
> > > > > >To: Cisco certification <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > >Subject: Frustrating - failed 1st attempt
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I failed my 1st attempt yesterday at San Jose.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I'm extremely frustrated right now because I walked out
> believing I
> > had
> > > > > >nailed it, yet I some how failed and I have no idea what went
> > wrong.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I arrived 2 days head of time and got a great night's
> sleep before
> > the
> > > > > lab.
> > > > > >I finished the lab in about 5 hours and verified my
> configurations> over
> > > > > the
> > > > > >remaining three hours. Found a few minor issues and did some
> > tweaking.
> > > > I
> > > > > >asked the proctors for clarification on almost every question
> > (Proctors
> > > > > were
> > > > > >great and very patient) and got good feedback regarding the
> > questions.
> > > > > >Reloaded the routers and checked everything again. I left
> with> > > everything
> > > > > >working (except for 3pts of IP service which I
> intentionally did
> > not
> > > > do)
> > > > > and
> > > > > >feeling like I had just kicked the lab's ass.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Then this morning I wake up to a score report that says I
> failed.> > > What's
> > > > > >worse is I have no idea what I could have done wrong.
> There was
> > nothing
> > > > > on
> > > > > >the test that was difficult or I was not very familiar
> with. I even
> > > > > verified
> > > > > >several config's right from the doc CD where the command
> > description
> > > > read
> > > > > >almost verbatim what they were asking.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Could I have gotten someone else's score report?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I'm sure many have thought the same thing. I'm just really
> > frustrated
> > > > as
> > > > > I
> > > > > >don't know what I did wrong and I have no idea how to
> prepare for
> > my
> > > > next
> > > > > >attempt?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Time management was not an issue, stress was not an issue,
> > technology
> > > > was
> > > > > >not an issue, and I'm pretty sure question interpretation
> was not
> > an
> > > > > issue.
> > > > > >Obviously there was some issue, but how do I find it? How
> do I
> > found
> > > > out
> > > > > >what I did wrong so I can correct it? Maybe technology
> was an
> > issue.
> > > > > Maybe I
> > > > > >needed more configuration or they were looking for a specific
> > solution.
> > > > > How
> > > > > >could I know?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Aaaaaghghgh!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Sorry for the whining...I'm just really frustrated...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-Ryan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >(going to try to reconstruct the lab from memory and see
> if I can
> > > > > determine
> > > > > >where I went wrong)
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> >
>
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