From: Haas, Brad (bhaas@presidio.com)
Date: Thu Mar 22 2007 - 10:22:07 ART
Darby, when is your lab date? You certainly seem to be putting
a lot of pressure on yourself to pass on your next (first?) attempt...
I am curious to see if what you are professing below turns to be true.
You seem to be learning from the best.
Good luck!
-Brad
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Darby Weaver
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:54 PM
To: Digital Yemeni; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Heinz Ulm - Day-2 - 1st Impressions - Kinda like the 300,
but he has 500 CCIE's
If I had to explain why his labs are so unique, then
one may never understand...
Another student wrote me from Germany - Heiko is the
instructor there and apparently he had a play in that
nasty lab I was presented today...
Someone asked how the quality was of Heinz's
instructors were... Hmmmm... Apparently the apple
did not fall.
Did any one see "300" as in 300 Spartans...?
It is kinf of like that... Heinz's students pass the
lab and many on the first try (quite possibly the only
vendor who can boast of the highest number of 1st
attempts).
There is a reason... His style is unique, his labs
are unique, he is unique, and 500 CCIE "Spartans" are
unique but they can toe most anyone else's labs and
make them look easy.
Heinz builds CCIE's - like a factory. He takes raw
materials: eyes, fingers, brains, etc. And from this
morass, he turns a student to putty - and sleep is
simply not an option.
Then after the time with him - you see improvement and
ultimately you now have a person fit to pass any lab
without regard to prior experience.
Heinz forges CCIE's.
Others may haggle over which CCIE is on which list.
Heinz does not even care - he simply says "They came
to me and they passed the lab" and when "I (Heinz)
asked why is your name on their list, the student says
well I bought a workbook from them..." Heinz shrugs,
he knows who they came to last...
He is a rock and he is very good. He's in the U.S.A
now and it looks like a lot of people from the U.S.
will be shouting his name and thanking him...
His results are awesome and they stand on their own
merits...
If passing the lab was worth getting married over,
then one might as well start booking the alter.
My friend - Heinz MAKES CCIE's... Unmistakable...
I watched the movie "Troy" and they said Achilles was
simply meant to "end men's lives"...
Well, if you visit Heinz... You are going to pass
your lab....
The funny thing is going to be to see how quickly one
actually passes a lab after the classes...
The dude rocks and you cannot take it from him... it
is as natural as his skin.
--- Digital Yemeni <digital.yemeni@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, reading the long long long article i thought
> at the end of it you'll
> marry him!! :-D
>
>
>
> On 3/22/07, joshua lauer <jslauer@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Darby,
> >
> > grab yourself a gallon of orange juice (preferably
> with a 5th of vodka)
> > should
> > hook you right up and you'll be back in action in
> no time!
> >
> >
> > JL> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:35:23 -0700> From:
> ccie17030@yahoo.com>
> > Subject:
> > Re: Heinz Ulm - Day-2 - 1st Impressions> To:
> darbyweaver@yahoo.com;
> > gabriel.nunes@gmail.com; atta.meer@gmail.com> CC:
> > karanprakash2004@yahoo.com;
> > Patrick.Galligan@didata.com.au;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com> > Darby buddy,>
> > Are
> > you sure you are not with "Silent of the Lamb" Dr.
> Lecter ? he he .> lP>
> > Darby
> > Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com> wrote:> Well,> >
> I've gotten past two daysa
> > with "the Evil Bastard".> > I received a nice
> compliment yesterday - for a
> > couple> of issue spotting exercises.> > He really
> kicked me pretty hard on
> > Monday - his labs> are so... unique and
> challenging.> > He really makes
> > you
> > think, he gives you the> opportunity to eat your
> own foot in addition to
> > the>
> > nasty little tricksssseeesss that he waiting for
> the> unwary student.> >
> > All
> > the while he watches everything you do... It is>
> quite interactive and he
> > does
> > things as you go...> makes comments on your speed,
> he has a lab of
> > backbone>
> > devices that enhance the overall experience...> >
> I gave him a surpise
> > yesterday that came in the form> of a beautiful
> young lady with a
> > spectacular
> > voice...> > He won't forget the expereince any
> time soon... Nope> strike 1
> > for
> > Darby...> > So I took advantage of doing my
> homework before the> visit...>
> > >
> > However he did introduce me to a form that he said
> I> would be begging to
> > sign
> > by the end of the week...> > It is an interesteng
> form and it reads
> > capitulation...> > Unlike Caslow or the Brians -
> Apparently no one has>
> > ever
> > completed a single lab of his in 8 hours on the>
> first try, nor have they
> > passed it obviously...> > While some traps seem
> obvious, others are subtle
> > and> you must have a keen eye, but that keen eye
> can cost> you points...
> > and
> > precious time and yet you cannot> look away easily
> since you can feel
> > something> crawling...> > > Your actual
> performance is not graded till the
> > last> day when you receive the Answer Keys for
> labs...> > I started
> > getting
> > sick and am suffering a bad cough,> the weather
> here, while nice, is
> > different
> > than> Orlando and couple with no sleep has left me
> with a> painful chest
> > cough, headache, fever and nausia. Not> the best
> had to be dealt when one
> > is
> > up against the> likes of Heinz Ulm...> > > In any
> event, my failures are
> > my
> > own. I do not yet> have scores to report, his
> style took getting used to>
> > but
> > have slowed me down considerably. Lots of things>
> to look at reach for
> > along
> > the way, I suppose - lots> of pretty...
> flowers...> > > The fruit is
> > bittersweet sometimes and one cannot> survive on
> what has been challenged
> > on
> > before alone...> > The man is a genius and he is
> mean, cruel, calm ,and>
> > cool,
> > and all at the same time...> > He keep picture of
> those he has tortured
> > before
> > and> have surrendered and have therefore known
> defeat... > at his hands
> > and
> > his labs...> > All in all, a refreshing difference
> than any of his>
> > competitors...> > Yep different...> > And even the
> Brians who have quite a
> > list of CCIE's> may be hard-presseed to actually
> account for the> number
> > of
> > CCIE's Heinz has on his site... over 500...> and
> he undoubtedly has the
> > most
> > "1st Time Passers> overall"...> > Many of which
> are quite simply
> > "FIRST-TIME
> > PASSERS" -> With over 500 CCIE's to date some of
> whom you may see> on
> > other
> > sites (since they either bought a workbook> from
> one or more or even taken
> > a
> > class with...) but> you need to dig a little
> deeper, how many sought out>
> > Mr.
> > Heinz...> > I ran into one guy before he left the
> 3-Week Bootcamp> and I
> > aksed
> > him why he went to Heinz Ulm's Camp and he> said
> "My co-workers and
> > friends
> > said there was but one> place to go to learn what
> you need to learn to
> > pass>
> > the CCIE Lab the first time, so here I am"...> > >
> Heinz does not accept
> > everyone is seems... He likes a> picture of his
> victims fresh for and from
> > the> slaughter... I think it a before and after
> comparison.> > But they
> > leave
> > his camp ready to take on the Lab and> mostly
> anything else...> > Most sit
> > the
> > lab within a few days of class and others> not
> much longer...> > The guy
> > has a
> > knack for tearing a person down, making> them
> acknowledge their own
> > demons,
> > and finally forging> a well-made sword capable of
> not only meeting the>
> > beast
> > but taking him down in but a flick of the>
> wrist... or so it would seem...
> > I'll find out when I> am ready...> > There is no
> doubt that the sheer
> > magnitutude of work> coupled by the demand and
> expectation are simply>
> > unheard
> > of...> > He has a hard time understanding how his
> competitors> can even
> > consider a Boot Camp in only 5-days...> > His
> students seem to agree
> > wholeheartedly...> > I'm only on day-2 and I am
> beginning to understand>
> > myself...> > I managed to spot many but not all of
> not all issues> today,
> > but
> > I sensed there were a few things that were> going
> to trip me up.> > My
> > health
> > has failed me today and tonight... I need> rest
> and it shows...> > The guy
> > sitting to my immediate left is a survivor of> the
> 3-Week Camp and is eyes
> > are
> > red and bloodshot and> the toll on his soul, paid
> in blood, sweat, and
> > tears>
> > can be seen in his BLOOD RED EYES and his
> fiurrowed> brow...> > Heinz does
> > something to you... He transforms you.... > He
> makes you more than you are
> > or
> > even thought you> could be...> > An interesting
> transformation to watch as
> > students> come out of their own cocoon and emerge
> as> butterflies...> > I
> > have
> > three days to go - it is 3:49 am here in Denver>
> and I am starting to get
> > sick, so I need to stop and> sleep now and let the
> medicines take their
> > effect
> > as I> try to heal before I go to get carved up
> more...> > The guy next to
> > me
> > mumbles almost incoherently about> "The Dirty
> Bastard" and Heinz only
> > smiles
> > and sinks> back in his chair easily satisfied by
> his work....and> his
> > latest
> > tormented victim...> > > I do believe he
> customizes things a bit... as you
> > go>
> > through his maze... He might as well be called
> the> Minotaur...> > Today I
> > caught one "issue" and he quickly offered> another
> - seemingly same, I
> > feinted
> > and easily> defended my reasoning for not choosing
> the option he> readily
> > offered... He smiled as he agreed with my> line of
> reasoning... He
> > complimented me on another> issue that I found -
> naturally he challenged
> > my
> > line> of thought... I defended it genuinely and he
> offered> me a
> > compliment
> > citing his entire class from the week> before had
> not considered what I
> > had...> > Next there was a matter of spotting an
> entire> slaughterhouse of
> > "issues" - It think I spotted them> all -
> carefully defended each and
> > everyone
> > and offered> other secondary or tertiary ways to
> do them if the> first one
> > or
> > two techniques should fail scutiny...> Cause you
> know he asked...> > He
> > liked
> > this... but the clock was ticking...> > I did find
> two ways to do two
> > other
> > tasks, he slid my> carefully worded blades aside
> with a quick and sure>
> > parry.... and said he would note those options
> and> would rule them out on
> > future labs...> > The guy is good, witty,
> accomplished, and quite>
> > striking...> > He challenges you over lunch to
> test how your mental>
> > facilities are holding up or if your senses have>
> dulled.... again very
> > personal very detailed... he> never misses an
> opportunity to poke you and
> > prod
> > you> and check your gums to see if they are
> bleeding... He> sniffs for
> > weaknesses relentlessly and being tired or>
> exhausted is simply not
> > exusable... The man does not> stop... You are in
> his house and he owns the
> > house;> lock, stock, and barrel...> > The man just
> does not relent... If
> > he
> > even thinks you> slack he asks you what you did
> and why... over and>
> > over...one thing after another... if you miss a>
> keyword in an ACL.... if
> > you
> > pause... if you use the> question mark... he asks
> why and if you don't
> > know
> > he> easily suggest the CCO and only the CCO... >
> Awesome...!!!!> > > >
> > Excellent one-on-one tutelege and advisement -
> such> interactivity are
> > rare...
> > and none have I yet to> experience are this intent
> or so genuine...> > The
> > man
> > has one attention and it is his students... >
> never does his phone ring,
> > his
> > site is secret he gives> it only to students who
> are immediately
> > attending>
> > class...> > For the time you are with him, he owns
> you and you> know it...
> > Each day he sizes you up, cuts you down> and
> chides on what you did, did
> > not
> > do, or could do> better...> > He is truly
> masterful in the art of
> > instruction...> > His classes are priced fairly
> and competitively ->
> > $8000.00
> > for 3-weeks or just $2800.00 for one week> such as
> a week of mock labs...>
> > >
> > He has one and two week options, but strongly>
> recommends that serious
> > students take the 3-week if> they can manage it
> any way possible...> > For
> > the
> > three week students they also get another week> of
> rack access...> >
> > $10,800.00 will buy you 5 Weeks of Heinzware....
> And> apparently IF you
> > survive the experience you will get> a T-shirt as
> well...> > 4 Weeks
> > instructor lead - ok instructor over your>
> shoulder watching everything
> > you do
> > and every move you> make.... and taunting you to
> make you ask yourself>
> > why,
> > what for, what are you going to accomlish by your>
> moves in this evil game
> > of
> > Cat and Mouse...> > I've just never seen such
> attention... no>
> > distractions...> > Just you... the rack.... and
> the Evil Bastard watching>
> > over your screen... in cruel delight...> >
> Everything one might expect
> > from a
> > CCIE #1561... > > When he took his students to
> meet Jeff Doyle in>
> > person...
> > the student said that Heinz told them... he> did
> not have time to be
> > concerned
> > with such "HIGH> NUMBERED" CCIE's... jokingly...
> but the truth>
> > palpatable...
> > Heinz is a legend and if you ever meet> his and
> encounter his instruction
> > you'd know why...> > Not many instructors today
> can boast the success of>
> > Heinz.... there is a reason...> > He is a one stop
> shop. Others can be
> > end-to-end.... > but their students sometimes find
> their way into his>
> > classes
> > and when they do they pass the lab... and it>
> inevitably is... THE END for
> > them... I have yet to> find a person who needed
> other instruction AFTER
> > they>
> > attnded Heinz and those that cite him will tell
> you> plainly... Heinz is
> > the
> > "WHY".> > Each and every time... there's simply no
> other> answer...> >
> > Others
> > barely have time to give you... Heinz takes>
> everything from you... but he
> > gives you time and> attention... and he
> remembers... everyone and>
> > everything,
> > what they did, their style and> character... He's
> an elephant with his
> > memory...> > And yet... so humble and down to
> earth... > > It not only
> > feels
> > and tastes like one-on-one> instruction.... simply
> take it for what it
> > is...>
> > ONE-ON-ONE instruction...> > Who can even compete
> with that... others can
> > try
> > but> let's be honest - tutelege of this caliber is
> really> the end of the
> > rainbow... > >
> >
>
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