From: joshua lauer (jslauer@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Mar 22 2007 - 08:05:29 ART
so in a nutshell and to break it all down..he teaches a CCIE bootcamp right?
I'm sure he's great and all (I wanted to attend his camps in germany at one
time) but the fact remains, he's different than the others. He has a different
approach (like all the others) and he's pretty successful (like all the
others). Other than the fact that he's different, he's the same as the
others...they teach. Teaching is an art, each instructor has their own set's
of paint and different type's of canvas' to paint on. I know your excited, I
would be too if I were there. But I think what your getting a taste now is a
bit of variety. Enjoy the camp, I would love to visit his camps in germany one
day and I already have the IE.
josh> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 01:51:16 -0700> From: darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Heinz Ulm - Day-2 - 1st Impressions - Kinda like the 300, but he
has 500 CCIE's> To: dandermanuk@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com> > Thanks
Danny,> > Yes - Heinz is unique - he takes situations and turns> your
weaknesses into strengths.> > He teaches how to approach a proctor and he
teaches> his students how to MAKE an impression.> > He hurts uyour feellings
and makes you drop your pride> at the door.> > However, you are thoroughly
reminded at how many> people looked before who walked in your shoes and how>
many of them got their CCIE's and some within days of> visiting his bootcamp.>
> He does not understand how anyone can learn or teach> everything for the
CCIE in just 5 or 10 days.> > He now offers these in the U.S. but he reminds
his> students of his 3 week - Get in, Get trained, and Get> CCIE philosphy.> >
He is not nice, his tricks and traps are subtle and if> you think you spotted
issue A or even B, you can rest> assured you had better find issue C.> > His
problems are OSI-layered and he expects his> students to know the difference
or if not to learn> them - trial by fire.> > He and I have talked now at some
length and he> explained to me about how many came unprepared but> left
enlightened and with solid skills to ultimately> pass the CCIE Lab - time
after time.> > One cannot argue his results.> > One can only imagine how he
keeps his students> motivated even when their eyes are blood red and their>
faces are worn out.> > Heinz does it time after time - he might as well have>
a template.> > I think you asked about his "Instructors" that he> leaves
behind. They are all former students. The one> that is giving a bootcamp in
Germany right now is> named "Heiko" and he is a "Dirty Evil Bastard" just>
like Heinz...> > I had the pleasure of experiencing a lab customized by> him
today... He is at least as cunning as Heinz and> may even be more...> > Heinz
is a master. His instructors are chosen and are> groomed accordingly. He
watches them just like we> watches us.> > It is an amazing thing really.> > I
would say if you can - do whatever you need to do> and get 3 weeks to get to
his classes - even if you> had to do them week by week. - Although three
weeks> at one time would be best - it seems.> > I'm not only preaching this,
I'm looking for a way to> do it myself.> > It is worth it. 3 Weeks in Hell for
a career of> being a more capable CCIE...> > Not a bad bargain if I am any
judge.> > His 3 Week pricing is cheaper that most other vendors> 2 Week
offerings.> > His hotel rates are 1/2 to 1/3 the price of places> like Herndon
- I paid over $100.00 and $175.00 for> hotels there.> > Overall it is not only
the most complete training but> it also the best bargain for the buck.> >
While I like the InternetworkExpert COD, and I love> the reviews. They are
great but they assume one is> going to do labs - Heinz makes no such
assumptions. > You simply do labs and more labs and have more> problems at
each layer of the OSI-model to contend> with.> > Totally A-W-E-S-O-M-E!!!> >
He is professional. He checks his email twice per day> while giving classes.>
> He's Germman and is always punctual.> > Oh yes - he pays for meals as well -
each day - while> he continues to assail your brain with more twisters.> >
With NMC-1 and NMC-2 -> Probably the closest I have> seen to Heinz, their is
no NMC-0 built in... If you> are behind and need to catch up, you usually have
to> do it yourself and perhaps take another week or two to> repeat the class -
More $$$ even if only for Travel> and Expenses. I've been there and done that
as well.> > Heinz covered this gap and covered it quite well. He> takes
nothing for granted. He asks you to come> prepared, but if you falter, he is
there to catch you> and berate you a bit and motivate you to move on...> > >
His training is simply the B-O-M-B!!!> > I'm really wondering why he is not
mentioned more here> on GS.> > He teaches all over the world. Someone in the
mideast> (Not to mention names) used his name to sell their> products...
Hmmm... Think about this one...> > He was not happy with it, but imitation is
the highest> form of flattery.> > You won't find his labs on the Internet, on
any> Newsgroups or any FTP... His students appreciate that> this is his
livelihood and respect that.> > You will have to and visit the Master-Jedi
Yoda all on> your own...> > Some CCIE instructors have multiple CCIE's but
the> very best at RS have one CCIE RS and Mr. Heinz and Mr.> Caslow set the
standards for being the very best.> > In any event it is 3am in Denver and I
have to sleep -> I'm very dehydrated and am still a quite a bit sick.> >
Later...> > Darby> > > --- Danny Cox <dandermanuk@gmail.com> wrote:> > >
Useful feedback Derby, thanks - especially as you've> > spent so much> > time
evaluating so many of the vendors. It's harder> > in Europe - the> > best guys
are in the US. The only other guy who has> > a particularly> > high reputation
in Europe that I'm aware of is> > Martin Shortland of> > Kinetic Edu but I
he's always booked up with company> > courses> > > > Ah well> > > > Thanks
again and i hope your brain survives> > > > Danny> > > > On 22/03/07, Darby
Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>> > wrote:> > > If I had to explain why his labs
are so unique,> > then> > > one may never understand...> > >> > > Another
student wrote me from Germany - Heiko is> > the> > > instructor there and
apparently he had a play in> > that> > > nasty lab I was presented today...> >
>> > > Someone asked how the quality was of Heinz's> > > instructors were...
Hmmmm... Apparently the> > apple> > > did not fall.> >
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